OAL law

[northernlights]

In Pennsylvania, if a rifle - take an AK-47 - has a folding stock, and when that stock is open, the gun meets the OAL of at least 26" to not be considered a firearm, but when the stock is closed, the OAL is less than 26", is the OAL with the stock closed or open taken as the legal OAL of the rifle? In other words, would it be a firearm or not?

Also, IS an AK with a folding stock less than 26" OAL even with the stock folded?

[GunLawyer001]

Pennsylvania and the Feds measure with any permanently attached stock in the open position.

Some states measure with it closed.

Detachable stocks don't count towards length. So don't replace your folding stock on your Title I Uzi with a detachable stock.

[northernlights]

So what makes a detachable stock then? I don't know exactly how AK stocks come off, but I'm guessing I take some screw off and pull it. Is it "permanent" because it is not something I can snap off at the press of a button, or "detachable" because it is ultimately possible to remove it?

[son of the revolution]

So what makes a detachable stock then? I don't know exactly how AK stocks come off, but I'm guessing I take some screw off and pull it. Is it "permanent" because it is not something I can snap off at the press of a button, or "detachable" because it is ultimately possible to remove it?

Thats MY understanding yes. You'll probably find the key words "readily removable" somewhere in whatever regs apply. But keep in mind, the ATF LOVES to change their guidelines, definitions and regs at the drop of a hat. This is the same Agency that once famously declared a shoelace to be a machine gun !