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    Default Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    I found these at a yard sale this weekend,
    Now I have to figure out what they are,
    Going from left to right,
    1, USM8A1 Not sure what it goes to
    2, No id, But it looks like late Garand to me,
    3, AFH, with Flaming bomb, 10" long, American Fork and Hoe, Late WWII Garand.
    4, US , 1989 on other side of 11,3/4" blade, wood handle don't know,
    5, 43 CRS, Plastic handle, Thinking Solingen knife with small emblem it has
    6, 44 PYY, wood handle, with Solingen emblem as well.
    7, US marked with 3 sided 18" spike and aprox 7/8" round opening on end. Don't know.
    Any assistance or corrections you may have would be welcomed,
    I can look and give more information if requested!
    Thanks all !
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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Wow great find! I have a USM8A1 scabbard for the bayonet that goes to my AR. How much did the whole lot run you?
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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    A bit more than I wanted to spend,
    $225 Total for the group,
    I will have to sell a few,
    Will be keeping the longer Garand for my Garand.
    Peter

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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    #7 Should be a socket bayonet for either a Trapdoor or a CW muzzle loader depending on the size of the socket. I would guess 45/70 trapdoor by the size, if so it should be $50.00 or more depending on the condition.

    #4 Going by the date should be a Krag bayonet, my last sold for $75.00.

    Not sure on the rest but my guess is that you did well as WWII bayonets sell very well
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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    no. 4 is for a krag. about $40 maybe more if it has not been sharpened

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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Look here for the tri-side bayonet for help in identifying it:
    http://www.fcsutler.com/fcbayonets.asp


    And good buy as well, the Garand and K98 bayo would sell on fleabay for what you have in the entire lot.

    I had to sell off my entire collection years ago and never got back into it, if I found a starting point like you did though I would reconsider.
    Last edited by 39flathead; August 25th, 2012 at 12:17 AM.

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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Quote Originally Posted by 39flathead View Post
    Look here for the tri-side bayonet for help in identifying it:
    http://www.fcsutler.com/fcbayonets.asp


    And good buy as well, the Garand and K98 bayo would sell on fleabay for what you have in the entire lot.

    I had to sell off my entire collection years ago and never got back into it, if I found a starting point like you did though I would reconsider.
    No I was not aware, So thank you for the link !
    And which is the K98?
    I know very little about these and am new to this,
    Thank you ! !
    Peter

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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    No I was not aware, So thank you for the link !
    And which is the K98?
    I know very little about these and am new to this,
    Thank you ! !
    Peter
    Actually #5 and #6 are K98 bayos, the Pyy is scarce IIRC, only about 35K made I think.

    Put it this way, I'll give you the $225 you paid for the entire lot for just the pyy.


    Ok, here:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-M...-/230697742682

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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    I found these at a yard sale this weekend,
    Now I have to figure out what they are,
    Going from left to right,
    1, USM8A1 Not sure what it goes to
    Looks like either an M1 Carbine or an AR-15/M16 series bayonet. I can't tell from the photo. Given the context of the other bayonets, I'll guess it's an M1 Carbine bayonet, which would make it an M4. IIRC, the "M8" is the scabbard designation, not the blade. The M8 scabbard was used with several bayonets (M4, M5 and even the M3 trench knife).

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    2, No id, But it looks like late Garand to me,
    Looks like a post-war M1 Rifle ("Garand") bayonet, perhaps teh M5 family the small rearward stud clips into the gas cylinder cap on the M1 Rifle. Probably fits in the same M8 scabbard as the previous bayonet.

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    3, AFH, with Flaming bomb, 10" long, American Fork and Hoe, Late WWII Garand.
    Post-1942 M1 Rifle bayonet. 1942 and earlier had 16" blades, 1943 and later were in the 10" — 11" range. Since it's in the scabbard, I can't tell whether it's an original 10" or a 16" cut-down. See next item for details.

    Quote Originally Posted by pred View Post
    4, US , 1989 on other side of 11,3/4" blade, wood handle don't know,
    Not certain about this one. The blade appears to be an original post-'43 M1 Rifle bayonet, most examples I've seen have plastic grips like #3. Not an expert to this extent, it might be all orig. Since I can see the blade, I do know it's original configuration and not a pre-1943 16" that was cut-down. If you look at the longitudinal groove in the blade, it stops several inches before the point. Both 10" and 16" blade variants had this feature. At some point, a lot of the 16" blades were cut down to 10", so this groove extends all the way to the point.


    16" US bayonet Model 1942 on a 1943 dated M1903A3 rifle, bayonet dated 1942.

    I'll leave the rest to the experts.

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    http://www.worldbayonets.com/Bayonet...ion_guide.html
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    Default Re: Did I get something good, 7 Bayonets, 1 price

    Good to see some more information,
    The small Bayo #1 I found M7, Looks to be a AR-15 Bayo and here is a pic of the Garand 10" bayo.
    Looks to be uncut, Is that a good thing?
    Peter
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