Four Philly officers @ wawa Bensalem

**JUNKMAN JIM** · May 12th, 2012, 11:11 AM

I just walked into the Wawa on Street Road in Bensalem and four PPD were walking in directly across froom me in dress blues. I held the door for them with my strong side showing and they all saw I was carrying. None of them said a word. I asked the last guy why they diddn't use plugs in the base of their grips and he looked at my glock and said he use to but he was told to take it out because if the mag has a problem you can stick your thumb into the hole and use it as leverage to rip the mag out. I never thought about that and was surprised. He couldn't have been more than 25 years old and came off as a really nice person. The other three just went about there business. No asking for i.d. or anything else. Good encounter. And I learned something today.

**mollymayhem82** · May 12th, 2012, 11:14 AM

....and then they shot you, right?

I've never heard about using the hole in the grip to rip out a magazine.

**ungawa** · May 12th, 2012, 11:46 AM

He's absolutely right. If you have a malfunction (other than failure to extract or stove pipe) rip that SOB out and let it fall on the ground. That's what reloads are for. Don't push the mag release and shake the gun to get it to drop or start fondling the mag base hoping to put it in a pouch. Many types of malfunctions or damage make mags fail to drop free.

Glad he didn't shoot you.

**Valorius** · May 12th, 2012, 11:49 AM

Considering that they were out of their jurisdiction, it would have taken an amazing amount of asshattery from one of them to harass you for OC.

**Metz** · May 12th, 2012, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Valorius

Considering that they were out of their jurisdiction, it would have taken an amazing amount of asshattery from one of them to harass you for OC.

You realize, it's PPD we are talking about, right? Tremendous amound of asshattery has never been an issue with them.

**JUNKMAN JIM** · May 12th, 2012, 02:48 PM

[QUOTE=ungawa;2004916]He's absolutely right. If you have a malfunction (other than failure to extract or stove pipe) rip that SOB out and let it fall on the ground. That's what reloads are for. Don't push the mag release and shake the gun to get it to drop or start fondling the mag base hoping to put it in a pouch. Many types of malfunctions or damage make mags fail to drop free.

This officer took the time to answer my question when he could have just blown me off. He was young and in dress blues, probably on his way to a funtion ie.. awards ceremony, graduation, funeral. On duty or off I don't care, he answered my question as a gentelman and I learned something today. +1. Hell with all the bashing +2, Lets not let the younger generation slip into the foot print of the old guard. I should have been more astute and noted or asked nicely one or more of the five w's, but I was actualy starteled by his respone, acurate, clear, and to the point. I don't see that much anymore.

**noslolo** · May 12th, 2012, 04:50 PM

Nice hear! I'm glad everything went so well for you.

**Deleted** · May 12th, 2012, 05:21 PM

Expect to start seeing some change in the PPD now that are finally hiring nonresidents. It will take time bit it will be a real positive change none the less.

**theo** · May 12th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by JUNKMAN JIM

And I learned something today.

Well its about time.

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**Pkspawn** · May 12th, 2012, 07:48 PM

Sounds like the encounter was initiated by the OP

SteelcityK9, is there a post on the Police Officer forums about an open carrier that started harassing the officer for no reason??