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    Default Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    www.nssf.org/legal/links/alerts/Pennsylvania.cfm

    Legislation (HB2228) that would mandate, within 60 days of becoming law, bullet serialization – the process by which each individual round of ammunition is identified and marked with a laser engraved serial number -- has been referred to the Pennsylvania House of Representatives Judiciary Committee. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) – the trade association of the firearms and ammunition industry – has made clear that serializing ammunition on a mass production basis is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a de facto ban on ammunition.

    NSSF is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact members of the Judiciary Committee immediately, urging them to strongly oppose this would-be ammunition ban.

    In addition to contacting individual members of the Judiciary Committee, please consider contacting your own representative, urging him or her to voice their opposition to this ammunition ban.

    "If manufacturers had to comply with bullet serialization, NSSF estimates that it would take almost three weeks to manufacture what is currently made in a single day," said NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel Lawrence G. Keane. "This massive reduction in ammunition would translate into substantially lower sales and profitability and ultimately force major ammunition manufacturers to abandon the market. In turn, there would be a severe shortage of serialized ammunition and all consumers, including federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, would be faced with substantial price increases. Ammunition will go from costing pennies to several dollars per cartridge."

    The domestic small arms ammunition industry, utilizing modern manufacturing processes and distribution practices, produces at least 8 billion ammunition cartridges a year at already low-profit margins. The three largest domestic manufacturers (who collectively account for the vast majority of the market) produce an estimated 15 million rounds of ammunition in a single day. Ammunition manufacturers could not serialize their product without hundreds of millions of dollars in capital investment to build the new factories that would be needed in order to meet the requirements of bullet serialization. At the same time, hundreds of millions of dollars of existing plants and equipment, and decades of manufacturing (cost-saving) efficiencies, would be rendered obsolete.

    "Bullet Serialization is dangerous and not practical," continued Keane. "As legislation that would mandate bullet serialization not only threatens law-abiding gun-owners but our industry's ability to supply the nation's law enforcement officers and military with high quality ammunition, we encourage all citizens of Pennsylvania to contact members of the House Judiciary Committee and urge them to oppose this bill."


    Visit the NSSF site or more information on Bullet Serialization.

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    which part of the round would have a serial number?

    if it is the actual bullet that wouldn't be useful because the bullet would not be intact (more than likely) and if it is the casing that could just be picked up....

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMoose View Post
    which part of the round would have a serial number?

    if it is the actual bullet that wouldn't be useful because the bullet would not be intact (more than likely) and if it is the casing that could just be picked up....
    From what I have read on the legislation, They want the Base of every bullet and the inside of every case to be serialize together.

    I know one thing, We would need bigger bullets or a VERY small engraver to do it the way they want it done.

    Bullet,Brass case and Box all have the same serial # ofcourse. However they say NO WAY on useing the same serial # on more than 1 box in a case. So it wouldn't take long before the number would hit 9 or 10 digits.


    There is no way in hell this will pass. It's just another polies feel good "look what I tried to do for the children" BS.

    JMHO,
    Rich W.

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    dont get too complacent on this one folks.

    CA is trying the same scam as well.

    Reach out to your state rep and let them know that you hope they will not support such a bill.

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by gold cup abuser View Post
    dont get too complacent on this one folks.

    CA is trying the same scam as well.

    Reach out to your state rep and let them know that you hope they will not support such a bill.
    +1

    Let's spread the word that this bill will impact all firearms owners. Call, write and email your legislators...

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    Quote Originally Posted by Warners Surplus View Post
    From what I have read on the legislation, They want the Base of every bullet and the inside of every case to be serialize together.

    I know one thing, We would need bigger bullets or a VERY small engraver to do it the way they want it done.

    Bullet,Brass case and Box all have the same serial # ofcourse. However they say NO WAY on useing the same serial # on more than 1 box in a case. So it wouldn't take long before the number would hit 9 or 10 digits.


    There is no way in hell this will pass. It's just another polies feel good "look what I tried to do for the children" BS.

    JMHO,
    Rich W.
    Word has it, that two guys from Seattle patented this micro-encoding technology and are pushing for these bills to fill their pockets. Besides Hawaii already shot down these bills and they are far from the most gun friendly state out there.

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    while I hate overacting at every threat, no matter how small of a chance it has at being passed. Writing an email takes under 3 minutes.

    Dear Sir or Madam,
    I implore you stop HB2228.

    Thankyou,
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    thats all, its not like they read those long winded trestise anyway. I just put "NO TO HB2228" in the subject line.

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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    I emailed tod rock already.
    In God We Trust............................

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    They like throwing worthless bills at us to tie up our resources.
    "Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
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    Default Re: Bullet Serialization Threat in Pennsylvania

    (Nevermind... found my answer)

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