First Time LTCF Applicant

[tfranzone]

Hi everyone,
I was wondering why it seems like Monroe county requires way more of you than most other counties? I keep reading horror stories of the process in the county and friends in Pike, Lackawanna and Wyoming said they were in and out in 25 minutes. I am applying for the first time. I have a copy of local tax form to show, (which no one else I know needed and I thought was unnecessary) but i have it ..so that's fine. In terms of references... I haven't been a county resident for that long and I only know one in county fulltime resident. Loads of other references, but outside of the county. Is there anyway around this? Is it possible to have the application go through with one in county reference and one out of county?
I want to be able to get this done as quickly and painlessly as possible the first go.

Thanks.

[jcabin]

Have you lived in the state for atleast a year?
As far as references you should be good to go so long as your references are atleast PA residents. You could mention it to them that only one of your references are monroe county residents as you just moved here and are trying to work within the guide lines.

Your turn around time will probably be around 40 days, which seems to be the average in this county.

[tfranzone]

I've technically been a PA resident since October, although my family has owned the home for over 10 years..(I know that does not matter). My references are in Lackawanna and I can put one in Monroe that I know... but I know they can be sticklers for the rules in Monroe county pertaining to the application and I don't want to make it difficult on myself and them...they ask for 2 that "MUST" be fulltime Monroe county residents....although I don't see the reasoning for it as it is a statewide permit.

Do you think they would be willing to bend if I explained to the sheriff that I only know of one reference in Monroe and the others would be all from outside counties?
I just don't want to waste the time and gas to go to Strouds to get denied bc of something like that.. perhaps I will call tomorrow instead and explain the situation.

Thanks.

[jcabin]

IIRC you have to be a state resident for either 6 months or a year before you can apply. If your parents owned a home in the state, but you didn't live in the state, I doubt that makes you eligible for the LTCF if you just moved in here a few months ago. It could be different if you were the actual home owner.

I don't know the exact requirements off hand, they are listed here on the site though.

[tfranzone]

Thanks. I've been a resident for over 6 months. There is no problem there.. the only issue I am having is the reference. I called the office and was told that I need both references to have fulltime mailing addresses in Monroe county. So there's my problem..I dont see how that's possible only knowing one person in county.

[HiredGoon]

Regardless of what "requirements" the sheriff imposes on the LTCF process... Length of state residency does not matter nor does having both references in the same county or even both being residents of PA.

[bobd]

Hi everyone,
I was wondering why it seems like Monroe county requires way more of you than most other counties? I keep reading horror stories of the process in the county and friends in Pike, Lackawanna and Wyoming said they were in and out in 25 minutes. I am applying for the first time. I have a copy of local tax form to show, (which no one else I know needed and I thought was unnecessary) but i have it ..so that's fine. In terms of references... I haven't been a county resident for that long and I only know one in county fulltime resident. Loads of other references, but outside of the county. Is there anyway around this? Is it possible to have the application go through with one in county reference and one out of county?
I want to be able to get this done as quickly and painlessly as possible the first go.

Thanks.

Funny...I'm moving "back" (lived in Monroe county about 20 years ago) to PA after years here in the peoples republic of nj, and one of the big reasons is because of PA being a much more "free" state with regards to firearms. So I too was surprised when I saw the CCW requirments of Monroe County...

I can partially understand the reference issue...(though I would think "PA resident" would be sufficient)...but the tax documenation? Really? What bearing does that have on someones qualification to have a CCW?

[BimmerJon]

The ONLY restriction on references is that they can't be Family Members.

Other than that.... They could be in Russsia if you want.

[Kramer]

I can partially understand the reference issue...(though I would think "PA resident" would be sufficient)...but the tax documenation? Really? What bearing does that have on someones qualification to have a CCW?

This has been discussed on many threads.

The tax document proves that you are a tax paying resident of Monroe County and not someone from another state that owns a summer house and wants to take advantage of the rewards of being a resident, like getting a LTCF. It has been a requirement for many years and I don't think that it will disappear any time soon.

[bobd]

Thanks folks...

BimmerJon...the Monroe county application seems pretty clear that...in Monroe county..they want Monroe county residents as references. I'm sure it's a local thing that you can argue from a legal standpoint, but not wanting to but heads with the local law, even if I have grounds...I'll comply.

Kramer,
Sorry I didn't check other threads...just offering my thoughts on what I found. Guess that makes sense...thanks for clarifying.

Bob