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    Default how do you get yer hand gun home?

    If you cant travel with your hand gun in your car how do you get it home from the gun shop?.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    There is an exemption for transporting it home.

    You really need to read Subsection 6106.

    18 Pa.C.S. § 6106: Firearms not to be carried without a license
    (a) Offense defined.--
    (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
    (2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a [FN1] valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
    (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:
    (1) Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
    (2) Members of the army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty.
    (3) The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such firearms from the United States or from this Commonwealth.
    (4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
    (5) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
    (6) Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties.
    (7) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business.
    (8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S § 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
    (9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
    (10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.
    (11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
    (12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
    (13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
    (14) A person lawfully engaged in the interstate transportation of a firearm as defined under 18 U.S.C § 921(a)(3) (relating to definitions) in compliance with 18 U.S.C. § 926A (relating to interstate transportation of firearms).
    (15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided:
    (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.
    (ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.
    (16) Any person holding a license in accordance with section 6109(f)(3).
    (c) Sportsman's firearm permit.--
    (1) Before any exception shall be granted under paragraph (b)(9) or (10) of this section to any person 18 years of age or older licensed to hunt, trap or fish or who has been issued a permit relating to hunting dogs, such person shall, at the time of securing his hunting, furtaking or fishing license or any time after such license has been issued, secure a sportsman's firearm permit from the county treasurer. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be issued immediately and be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years from the date of issue for any legal firearm, when carried in conjunction with a valid hunting, furtaking or fishing license or permit relating to hunting dogs. The sportsman's firearm permit shall be in triplicate on a form to be furnished by the Pennsylvania State Police. The original permit shall be delivered to the person, and the first copy thereof, within seven days, shall be forwarded to the Commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police by the county treasurer. The second copy shall be retained by the county treasurer for a period of two years from the date of expiration. The county treasurer shall be entitled to collect a fee of not more than $6 for each such permit issued, which shall include the cost of any official form. The Pennsylvania State Police may recover from the county treasurer the cost of any such form, but may not charge more than $1 for each official permit form furnished to the county treasurer.
    (2) Any person who sells or attempts to sell a sportsman's firearm permit for a fee in excess of that amount fixed under this subsection commits a summary offense.
    (d) Revocation of registration.--Any registration of a firearm under subsection (c) of this section may be revoked by the county treasurer who issued it, upon written notice to the holder thereof.
    (e) Definitions.--
    (1) For purposes of subsection (b)(3), (4), (5), (7) and (8), the term "firearm" shall include any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of the weapon.
    (2) As used in this section, the phrase "place of instruction" shall include any hunting club, rifle club, rifle range, pistol range, shooting range, the premises of a licensed firearms dealer or a lawful gun show or meet.
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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    Quote Originally Posted by wayneguitars View Post
    If you cant travel with your hand gun in your car how do you get it home from the gun shop?.
    You take it directly home, unloaded and separate from ammunition.

    http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/...out-a-license/

    Or get an LTCF and carry it how you want.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    geeze these laws are confuseing to me lol. so if i put it back in its case can i take it to a shooting range to learn how to shoot it?. its my first hand gun i bought it because of a promotion on them and always wanted one. i dont want to get a concealed weapon permit before i know how to use it. if i dont like it im just gonna stick with my rifles and trade it back to the gun shop for a new browning a bolt.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    Quote Originally Posted by wayneguitars View Post
    geeze these laws are confuseing to me lol. so if i put it back in its case can i take it to a shooting range to learn how to shoot it?. its my first hand gun i bought it because of a promotion on them and always wanted one. i dont want to get a concealed weapon permit before i know how to use it. if i dont like it im just gonna stick with my rifles and trade it back to the gun shop for a new browning a bolt.
    There is no good reason not to get a License to Carry Firearms. It's only $20 for five years and it greatly increases your options for legally transporting your pistol. That said, you are legally allowed to transport your unloaded handgun to and from the range.


    (Ok, there are a few good but obscure reasons for not getting a License to Carry Firearms but they probably don't apply to you, like if you already meet another statutory exception or if you have the time and money and chutzpah to try to mount a constitutional challenge to the UFA.)
    I am not a lawyer. Nothing I say or write is legal advice.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    Quote Originally Posted by wayneguitars View Post
    geeze these laws are confuseing to me lol. so if i put it back in its case can i take it to a shooting range to learn how to shoot it?. its mvy first hand gun i bought it because of a promotion on them and always wanted one. i dont want to get a concealed weapon permit before i know how to use it. if i dont like it im just gonna stick with my rifles and trade it back to the gun shop for a new browning a bolt.
    An LTCF costs less than $5 a year and can keep you out of jail in many ways. It's well worth having.

    You are under no obligation to carry if you have a license, you just have that option. It also gives you the ability to receive a loaned firearm, or to go places other than directly to and from the range. If you don't have the license then you can't so much as stop at the grocery store for milk on the way home. Then there's federal gun free school nonsense, which applies within 1000 feet of any school (read: almost everywhere), but you're covered (for PA schools at least) if you have an LTCF.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philbert View Post
    You take it directly home, unloaded and separate from ammunition.

    http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/...out-a-license/

    Or get an LTCF and carry it how you want.
    It only has to be unloaded, not separate from ammo. He can bury the unloaded handgun in a crate of loose ammo if he wants.

    If detachable mags are loaded then the loaded mags should be in a separate container or compartment thereof.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    You could open carry it and walk home. Unless you are in Philly or we are in a state of emergency. IANAL.
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    If you're gonna be dumb ya gotta be tough.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    im gonna have to find out where you can get one around here if its that cheap. thanks for the responces.

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    Default Re: how do you get yer hand gun home?

    Quote Originally Posted by ungawa View Post
    It only has to be unloaded, not separate from ammo. He can bury the unloaded handgun in a crate of loose ammo if he wants.

    If detachable mags are loaded then the loaded mags should be in a separate container or compartment thereof.
    Oh yeah:

    "Loaded." A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the nondetachable magazine or in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm.
    So a revolver stored with a bunch of speed loaders or loose rounds is OK, I guess. But a loaded mag is illegal. Weird.

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