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March 14th, 2012, 02:34 PM #1Junior Member
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live in NJ own prop with home in PA. Have FL, UTAH, NH, ME, AZ, VA, CT CCW's. I realize I cannot apply for and receive a PA CCW unless I move. My question is if I can get a PA State issued ID for the purchase or sale of firearms while in PA.
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March 14th, 2012, 04:00 PM #2Super Member
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Re: question
No such Animal, PA is a free state unlike New Jerkistan.
If you have your NJ FOID card you should be able to buy NJ compliant long arms.
Handguns follow the rules of your home state too so you need a NJ permit to purchase.
Even with the proper credentials a PA FFL might not sell to you.Last edited by wis bang; March 14th, 2012 at 04:02 PM.
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March 14th, 2012, 04:09 PM #3
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March 14th, 2012, 04:58 PM #4
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March 14th, 2012, 07:26 PM #5
Re: question
Where one has a DL is irrelavent to the conversation. The OP has a residence in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania law requires one have a Pennsylvania residence if applying for a license (or a license from their home state if applying for a nonresident license).
OP has a domicile in New Jersey, but Pennsylvania law doesn't require a Pennsylvania domicile, just a Pennsylvania residence.
There is a difference between the two.
He needs to be able to show proof of residence when applying for a Pennsylvania license.
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March 14th, 2012, 07:27 PM #6
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Do you maintain and use the PA home as a vacation or weekend home? Is it for your exclusive use?
If so then while occupying that PA secondary home you are considered a PA resident for Federal Firearm law (Chapter 44) purposes:
27 CFR § 478.11 State of residence. The State in which
an individual resides. An individual resides
in a State if he or she is present
in a State with the intention of making
a home in that State. If an individual
is on active duty as a member of
the Armed Forces, the individual’s
State of residence is the State in which
his or her permanent duty station is located.
An alien who is legally in the
United States shall be considered to be
a resident of a State only if the alien is
residing in the State and has resided in
the State for a period of at least 90
days prior to the date of sale or delivery
of a firearm. The following are examples
that illustrate this definition:
Example 1. A maintains a home in State X.
A travels to State Y on a hunting, fishing,
business, or other type of trip. A does not become
a resident of State Y by reason of such
trip.
Example 2. A is a U.S. citizen and maintains
a home in State X and a home in State
Y. A resides in State X except for weekends
or the summer months of the year and in
State Y for the weekends or the summer
months of the year. During the time that A
actually resides in State X, A is a resident of
State X, and during the time that A actually
resides in State Y, A is a resident of State Y.
If you intend to stock up in PA and then take the PA FFL bought firearms back to your NJ residence I would suspect that NJ would frown on it and you do have transport vulnerabilities once you enter NJ unless you have an NJFID for longarms or an NJCCW for handguns. I'm unaware of any NJ laws that prohibit the possession of the PA firearms once you reach your NJ residence. There may be a gray area of Federal law if you take FTF bought firearms to NJ.
Before using the above you should investigate further and then proceed at your delight or peril.IANAL
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March 14th, 2012, 08:36 PM #7
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Yeah, but the OP, who lives in NJ (and I would imagine has a NJ DL or state ID, specifically asked if he could get a PA State issued ID.
Aren't I correct in assuming that he would have to give up his NJ DL or state ID, to get a PA State issued ID?
That's what I was saying.
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March 14th, 2012, 08:49 PM #9
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Check http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/licensing...identity.shtml
Have to be a resident.
I had a DL in PA and FLA at the same time. FLA DL was in state only, which allowed me to do this.
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March 16th, 2012, 05:48 PM #10
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