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    Default Lethal Weapons Academy Handgun 101

    I am wondering if anyone here is going to the LWTA Handgun 101 class at Bob's Gun Shop, McKean PA on 11/20/11. I was also interested to see if anyone here has attended this class and how their experience / feedback was.

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    Welcome to the forum. I have heard some good things about Bob's classes. Let us know how it goes. I am also in Erie. Where do you normally shoot?
    Jules

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    I have only been a handgun owner for a little over a month. Prior to that had a .22 rifle. I have been to sgl 109 and Bob's. With all the recent shootings in Erie I have determined it is time to train and carry. Do you know of any other places that offer training in this area?

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    I'm down the road a bit (Pittsburgh area), but always interested to hear/read about good training.

    Please let us know of your experience with Lethal Weapons Academy.
    Tomorrow's battle is won during today's practice.

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    TimmyB814, I took the class, probably 12-15 years ago. I would highly recommend it. I think it would be perfect for you, being a new handgun owner.

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    Rex, Thanks for the advice. Have you completed any other training in the area that I could look in to? I would like to schedule something for myself at least every other month until I am comfortable and posses an adequate skill set.

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    Default Re: Lethal Weapons Academy Handgun 101

    For basic weapon safety courses, you could attend a hunter safety course. Should be plenty around, since the season's coming up.
    The most dangerous place in America is a "gun free" zone.

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    Tim, You'll have to ask Bob about other classes. Back when I took the class, Bob was having "Combat Shoots" on Monday nights. I learned alot at them, very humbling. You can't believe how many mistakes and bad shots you can make under pressure. I wish he still had them, lots of fun, and very helpful. Also, check out Gem City Gun Club in Harborcreek.

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    Default Re: Lethal Weapons Academy Handgun 101

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyB814 View Post
    I was also interested to see if anyone here has attended this class and how their experience / feedback was.
    I took the HG101 class in 2006 or 2007...good introductory class with plenty of range time. Good for a novice.

    For more advanced training, consider the HG201 class. Bob usually schedules one in late June. I ttok that class in 2010....fantastic. Learned much, shot loads of rounds 700+ in two days.

    Here is synopsis of HG201:

    Day 1 Morning

    Class introductions.
    Bob McDowell with Mark Shultz, Dave Burlingame
    Recommended Dave Grossman’s – On Killing

    Classroom discussion
    Reviewed various guns brought by students.
    Four cocking methods: hammer, trigger, slide, squeeze
    OODA loop
    OBSERVE
    ORIENT
    DECIDE
    ACT

    To RANGE
    Stance, grip, draw from holster, reholster (5-10yds)


    Day 1 Afternoon
    Reload
    Reload from slide lock: use mag with 1-2 rounds
    Reload tactical: 1-2 shots then reload after 360° scan

    Malfunction drills
    Tap, rack, roll: used dummy rounds
    Extended tap, rack, roll (double feed): empty in chamber rack one on top
    [Lock back, remove mag and hold, remove round-multiple racking]

    One hand (strong side)

    Day 2 Morning
    Warm up with slide lock reload: use mag with 1-2 rounds

    Movement:
    1 step right
    1 step left

    Position:
    Kneel (15-25-35 yd)
    Double down
    High kneel (my preferred)
    Low kneel (stabilizing)

    Concealment:
    Kneel from concealment
    Prone from concealment
    On side Army position (my preferred)


    Day 2 Afternoon

    Movement
    Forward: heel to toe, small steps. Started at slow, then faster, then fast
    Backward: same as above
    Fast movement (trot/walk) to right: modified Weaver, pistol much closer
    Fast movement (trot/walk) to left: hand against chest, one handed

    Oh shit drills (point and shoot, no sights)
    From hip
    From arms length – punch
    From contact distance with backward movement

    Scenario
    Exit van from non drivers-side…and that's all I'll reveal about that
    Kind Regards,
    ChuckS

    “The will to win is important. But the will to prepare is vital.” — Joe Paterno

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    Default Re: Lethal Weapons Academy Handgun 101

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexaroonie View Post
    ....Also, check out Gem City Gun Club in Harborcreek.

    I believe I read about Gem City Gun Club scheduling an NRA pistol course soon, maybe next weekend? That might be another good option too.
    Kind Regards,
    ChuckS

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