C&R Carry

**nijwnfi** · January 20th, 2008, 09:12 PM

I wonder what would happen if I was pulled over carrying a C&R handgun in the glovebox, and the officer ran the serial number and couldn't find it? I know they are only checking to see if it's stolen, but that serno won't be in the system.

**Montell C. Williams** · January 20th, 2008, 09:29 PM

Most serial numbers aren't in the system if not reported stolen. My Chief's Special was purchased before there was a computer system and others at gun shows in TN when I lived down there.

There is no national data base of who owns what guns.

**Morel42** · January 21st, 2008, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Montell C. Williams

There is no national data base of who owns what guns.

And lets pray that there never is!

**Pa. Patriot** · January 21st, 2008, 12:20 AM

The PSP has a database of all handguns transfered through PA FFL's.

They are comparing the Ser# to this and (assumably) a stolen gun database.

**nijwnfi** · January 21st, 2008, 11:27 AM

My reason for concern was hearing about peoples handguns being illegally confiscated because no serial number comes up when PSP, or other runs it. I wonder if this ever happened with a C&R purchase.
There is so much misinformation out there. I was once told by a dealer that it is illegal to carry a C&R purchased handgun, because it isn't registered. With the CZ82 making the C&R list, this could become a problem.

**KeithPA** · January 21st, 2008, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by nijwnfi

My reason for concern was hearing about peoples handguns being illegally confiscated because no serial number comes up when PSP, or other runs it. I wonder if this ever happened with a C&R purchase.
There is so much misinformation out there. I was once told by a dealer that it is illegal to carry a C&R purchased handgun, because it isn't registered. With the CZ82 making the C&R list, this could become a problem.

There's a thread on this site Hawley PD about one that didn't come up in the system.

**Pa. Patriot** · January 21st, 2008, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by nijwnfi

My reason for concern was hearing about peoples handguns being illegally confiscated because no serial number comes up when PSP, or other runs it. I wonder if this ever happened with a C&R purchase.
There is so much misinformation out there. I was once told by a dealer that it is illegal to carry a C&R purchased handgun, because it isn't registered. With the CZ82 making the C&R list, this could become a problem.

I got ya. I figured exactly that was your reason for asking.

The answer is no. The ser# being in the illegal database is not grounds for trouble.
That said, as delta pointed out, there CAN be the amazingly ignorant LEO that will make an issue of it, just like they could make an issue of anything else not illegal (like OC

)

The dealer gave you bogus info, as your aware. Ignorant dealers seen to be as common as ignorant sheriff's I'm afraid

**Pa. Patriot** · January 21st, 2008, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteFeather

Pa Patriot, and all, don't forget police can not just run your pistol serial number just for kicks, it has to be used in a crime or officer has to have probable cause to believe it was used in commission of a crime for them to legally run your pistol numbers through PSP, it’s not legal for fishing expeditions….. Including traffic stops.

Also Don't forget what happen to the marine with pistol bought out of state and the LEO, spent lots of money, rights violated, got his pistol back in end but....... read the conclusion here

http://www.pafoa.org/forum/pennsylva...hawley-pd.html

Yep, great points.