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Thread: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
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October 12th, 2011, 06:31 PM #1
Silencers, the NFA, and You.
EVEERYONE: there is currently a petition to rid silencers from the NFA, and the $200 tax on cans. whithouse.gov. go to the petition section, you need to create an account. the petition currently has 305+/- sigs. 5000 is needed. Share this. Sign this.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...s-act/6hm2ByPv
Their is also a petition to rid of the 1986 Hughes Amendment (machine gun ban) https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...d-nfa/FWXhjh9s
this is another one to get sbr's and such off the nfa https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...s-act/Zc2GTB4cLast edited by coppery; October 12th, 2011 at 08:11 PM.
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October 12th, 2011, 06:47 PM #2
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October 12th, 2011, 07:02 PM #3Banned
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Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
Makes sense. There are a lot of countries where silencers are treated no different than any other form of hearing protection.
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October 12th, 2011, 07:13 PM #4
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
Must you put your whole name - i noticed the petition last names only have an initial - did the petitioners leave it out or is it cut out for privacy online?
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October 12th, 2011, 07:26 PM #5
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
The petition leaves it out for your privacy. You only disclose your full name on the sign up process, it will not show on the signature page.
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October 12th, 2011, 07:29 PM #6
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October 12th, 2011, 07:46 PM #7
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
Rational people know that silencers go on guns for the same reason that mufflers go on cars, and workers wear earmuffs around unavoidably noisy machinery. "Why would you want to reduce the sound level of gunfire that damages unprotected hearing and annoys the neighbors?" is a question that's too silly to ask.
That being said, there is no way that any Senator or Representative would put his name on a bill to put silencers in every WalMart, and it would take legislation to repeal that part of the NFA. Silencers are statutorily defined as NFA firearms, that can't be undone by executive order or new regulations by ATF.
The vast majority of Americans associate silencers with assassins and the Mafia, and nothing else. It would be political suicide to sponsor such a bill, and it would never be enacted.
Pushing this legislation would be like making a point of using the word "*****rdly" in all your speeches. Yes, it's a race-neutral word that has a perfectly acceptable meaning. But when's the last time that a candidate used it in public?
Lots of dangerous things lack that self-announcing feature. What's the sound of a propane leak from 50 yards away? What noise does an axe make before it hits a skull? Should bells be mandated on all archery equipment? It's silly to demand that a dangerous noise remain unabated. But there's lots of silliness coming out of DC these days. Always has been.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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October 12th, 2011, 07:52 PM #8
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
Rules are written in the stone,
Break the rules and you get no bones,
all you get is ridicule, laughter,
and a trip to the house of pain.
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October 12th, 2011, 07:58 PM #9
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
Yes I have mixed feelings on providing my info to them.. although they probably have it anyways. (you know those papers you fill out to buy a gun)
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October 12th, 2011, 07:59 PM #10
Re: Silencers, the NFA, and You.
At the risk of Godwin's law, I'll point out that the very-civilized German people dutifully filled out the official government census forms, detailing how many lived there, and what religion they were. Later, the very-civilized Nazis used that data to make sure that no Jew was left behind. It's not paranoia if you really do have enemies.
It's too late for me, I'm already on all sorts of lists. Hell, I teach lawyers about NFA issues, you don't think anyone notices?
You youngsters may want to keep your heads down, though.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
Ce sac n'est pas un jouet.
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