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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    How come you can't find a 500lb gorilla when you need one?


    Don’t we have one of those bat signal thingy bobs?
    FUCK BIDEN

  2. #32
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    my license to Cary denied? He stated someone came in two days before I applied on 11/16/07 and asked If I had a license to Cary. he said he looked in the computer and told them no there is no one in here by that name. He said he asked this person why he said this person told him he observed me with a gun in my waist band on my property. I said Yes Sheriff I do Cary my gun in a holster on my property and not in my waist band. I also stated that its not against the law To OC In PA he agreed. I then asked why was my permit being denied. He then said "I called the Clifford police as part of my investigation and they said yes they had a report of me walking around with my side arm. never once has the police been to my house never once have I been in trouble with the law! I said this is why you denied me he said yes he said it shows lack of character and thats the grounds hes denying me on. I told him I was going to appeal he then said I guess I was right in denying you then You are arguing with me. I said I'm stating facts and laws I'm not arguing with you and mean no disrespect. He said stay out of trouble and reapply in a year until then get yourself some pepper spray. WTF
    Ahhhhhhh not for nothing dude but what is this really ......I mean really.....

  3. #33
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Someone needs to send that guy the OC memo PA PATRIOT made up.

  4. #34
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    That sucks. These sheriff's are on a power trip. Keep us posted and we will try to help where we can.

    Please get a lawyer! It is a must.

  5. #35
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Quote Originally Posted by God's Country View Post
    How come you can't find a 500lb gorilla when you need one?


    Don’t we have one of those bat signal thingy bobs?

  6. #36
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Is it possible that the Sheriff violated §6111 when he told someone whether or not someone had a license?

    §6111. Sale or transfer of firearms.

    (i) Confidentiality.-All information provided by the potential purchaser, transferee or applicant, including, but not limited to, the potential purchaser, transferee or applicant's name or identity, furnished by a potential purchaser or transferee under this section or any applicant for a license to carry a firearm as provided by section 6109 shall be confidential and not subject to public disclosure. In addition to any other sanction or penalty imposed by this chapter, any person, licensed dealer, State or local governmental agency or department that violates this subsection shall be liable in civil damages in the amount of $1,000 per occurrence or three times the actual damages incurred as a result of the violation, whichever is greater, as well as reasonable attorney fees.
    RIP: SFN, 1861, twoeggsup, Lambo, jamesjo, JayBell, 32 Magnum, Pro2A, mrwildroot, dregan, Frenchy, Fragger, ungawa, Mtn Jack, Grapeshot, R.W.J., PennsyPlinker, Statkowski, Deanimator, roland, aubie515

    Don't end up in my signature!

  7. #37
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Is it possible that the Sheriff violated §6111 when he told someone whether or not someone had a license?
    Possibly, it'd be great to get that story on paper from the Sheriff.
    Dan P, Founder & President, Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
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  8. #38
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Quote Originally Posted by KpaxFAQ View Post
    Thank God we have a great Sheriff in Bob Merski up here in Erie County. He would never pull any of these shenanigans I've been hearing from other counties in the state...Unbelievable....
    Well put. We love you Bob!

  9. #39
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Sorry, gorilla busy!

    This is pretty screwed up.

    1st things first. You've gotten good advise already. You need to start keeping track of everything from here on out.
    As to filing the appeal, do not wait. Next Fri is not good enough. The appeal can be filed via Certified Mail. (IIRC) I am looking right now.

    As has been said, if this is the way you explained in your OP, the sheriff is obviously completely out of line and has no grounds for this.
    Additionally, how can he give info to someone coming in to ask about your permit? That's nuts.
    The sherif also broke the law (SS6109) by not mailing you certified nor giving a written reason
    ...If the sheriff refuses to issue a license, the sheriff shall notify the applicant in writing of the refusal and the specific reasons. The notice shall be sent by certified mail to the applicant at the address set forth in the application.
    ref: § 6109. Licenses.

    I guess we have another sheriff thinking the laws are flexible to his agenda. Hope he likes attention.

    But, there is more. Check your PM's

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    Last edited by Pa. Patriot; January 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 AM.

  10. #40
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    Default Re: Permit to cary Denied

    Quote Originally Posted by knight0334 View Post
    Is it possible that the Sheriff violated §6111 when he told someone whether or not someone had a license?
    Looks that way. Depends on what the sheriff told this "person" after their report.

    Taking a report is one thing, sharing confidential info is quite another, as
    §6111 points out.
    This is looking very bad for Sheriff Benedict

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