so you thought the super shorty was cool

**brownman** · August 18th, 2011, 12:11 AM

Bottom 2 on the page. PRICEY yes but... if its an SBS you're after and have the dough, well

http://bravo18.com/SAIGA%27S.html

**red dog** · August 18th, 2011, 05:01 AM

damn, these are cool. they have to be a blast (literally) to shoot. they really upped the scale in firepower over the super shorty. but i have to say i will save the grand + and keep my little shorty. you gotta admit the shorty has it,s plus,s to, more compact, less expensive, lighter. if i can,t get it done with 3 rounds i should just hang it up. by the way my shorty makes a hell of a bedside gun.

**beefcakeb0** · August 20th, 2011, 05:30 AM

those aow's look an awful lot like they just welded a plate on the back of a factory receiver.

**Ma Deuce** · September 7th, 2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by beefcakeb0

those aow's look an awful lot like they just welded a plate on the back of a factory receiver.

that's what i suspect cadiz gun works actually did, weld a plate on the back of the receiver and remove all factory markings and serial numbers so he could claim he made a new receiver and call it an AOW

**B.A.** · September 8th, 2011, 03:53 PM

that seems like an awful lot of money for whats essentially a saiga 12 thats missing a butt stock and half the barrel. you can buy one and do it your self for probably about $700 not including the nfa fees.

**GeorgeF** · September 14th, 2011, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by B.A.

that seems like an awful lot of money for whats essentially a saiga 12 thats missing a butt stock and half the barrel. you can buy one and do it your self for probably about $700 not including the nfa fees.

There's doing it yourself, and then there's making it work. As I understand it, once you get to a certain point in barrel reduction, you end up messing with the gas ports. That requires additional modification, and if you arent someone who really knows what you are doing, you could end up spending a lot more fixing your mistakes. If it were a pump gun or side by side, much easier - but gas system requires tweaking. Tromix is the #1 guy for Saiga conversions - he has a waiting list out through next year and comes very highly recommended.