Taurus 85 +P rated?

[gnbrotz]

I have a Taurus 85 Ultralite (but NOT Titanium). I've read on several other forums that this model is +P rated, but I'm looking for confirmation. It's not indicated on the firearm itself. Supposedly the manual provides some information, but I bought this gun used so I don't have the manual, the Taurus site is currently down, and I'm impatient!

What say ye?

[Exbiker]

I just looked on gunbroker. They show 14 different Taurus 85's and all say 38SP and none were 357.

[gnbrotz]

I just looked on gunbroker. They show 14 different Taurus 85's and all say 38SP and none were 357.

And....? 38SP ammo is available in +P as well.

[Valorius]

It should be fine for limited use for defensive purposes.

I would not have a problem using +P in that model for that purpose.

[knight0334]

FWIW, Wiki says it is. Taurus' site is down, but I'm pretty sure that I read that my 851 Ultralite is rated for +P. My 851 is just a shrouded hammer version of the 85.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Model_85

[gnbrotz]

It should be fine for limited use for defensive purposes.

I would not have a problem using +P in that model for that purpose.

Since I think it's important to practice with what you carry, I'm not looking for an ammo choice that requires rationing for safety reasons. If it is +P rated by the manufacturer, then I expect to be able to shoot +P ammo exclusively with no special safety concerns when compared to 'normal' (lower-pressure) loads.

With all due respect, I'm looking for a verifiable determination, not an "it should be fine".

[Chazman321]

Lets answer that Question: +P But Not +P+
This is from page 4 of the Taurus catalog: +P RATED FOR DUTY USE®
All Taurus handguns are engineered to accept a steadydiet of factory-new Plus-P (+P) ammunition built to SAAMI specifications. This includes the Ultra-Lite hammer forged aluminum alloys, Titanium, blue steel and stainless steel models. Rest assured, your Taurus will be ready, especially when you’re counting on it.


-Chaz

[gnbrotz]

Lets answer that Question: +P But Not +P+
This is from page 4 of the Taurus catalog: +P RATED FOR DUTY USE®
All Taurus handguns are engineered to accept a steadydiet of factory-new Plus-P (+P) ammunition built to SAAMI specifications. This includes the Ultra-Lite hammer forged aluminum alloys, Titanium, blue steel and stainless steel models. Rest assured, your Taurus will be ready, especially when you’re counting on it.


-Chaz

Thank you. I do understand that there is no SAAMI specification for any +P+ ammo, so I'm not surprised that manufacturers are hesitant to rate their firearms for it.

Now the OCD in me wants to know exactly what "For duty use" includes.

I believe that many here expend more rounds through our daily carry guns in a year that many LEOs do through their duty weapon, so is it possible we're pushing the limits of what "duty rated" actually means?

[ByblosHex]

Thank you. I do understand that there is no SAAMI specification for any +P+ ammo, so I'm not surprised that manufacturers are hesitant to rate their firearms for it.

Now the OCD in me wants to know exactly what "For duty use" includes.

I believe that many here expend more rounds through our daily carry guns in a year that many LEOs do through their duty weapon, so is it possible we're pushing the limits of what "duty rated" actually means?

I bet almost all of us use more ammunition than most people who carry theirs for "duty use"

[SCBaldr]

I bet almost all of us use more ammunition than people who carry theirs for "duty use"

HEY!!!! I'm one of those "for duty use" people and I blow through a wallet flattening amount of ammo each year. Even counting the fact that I reload all of my .45 ACP.

2000 rounds per year of .45ACP
4000 rounds per year of 9mm
God knows how much 22 LR I go through...

That's a lot of shooting in a year. I will say that I know quite a few fellow LEOs who shoot maybe 200 rounds a year qualifying and that's it. All they care about is getting enough hits into the kill zone to pass quals. Sad, but there it is.