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December 27th, 2007, 10:57 AM #21
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December 27th, 2007, 10:59 AM #22Banned
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Re: Police confront OCer
I dont know if you're a writer or not, but if you're not; you missed your calling.
I cant say I blame the police for inquiring; how would it look if at that hour they didn't ask and when they left everybody there was shot up and a hundred bucks was missing from the cash register? They're only doing their job and besides, they didn't frisk you or anything.
Lets face it, they no doubt figure you didn't walk in there after seeing police cars in the parking lot, open carrying, and intend to shoot people up, and since open carry doesn't require a license, why ask? I bet my left arm though they knew you were licensed. Just like another situation I read about somewhere, a guy drew his weapon in an attempted car jacking and after the BG's left dialed 911. The cop never asked to see the license and the carrier asked why not; the cop replied, people carrying illegally dont dial 911 and admit it.
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December 27th, 2007, 11:02 AM #23
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I have seen unfamiliar people OCing three times in the past and regardless of the time of day or night, yes it always makes me suspicious if I don't know who they are.
Cops OCing don't bother me. Seeing 20 people OCing at the range doesn't bother me. Armed security for Brinks don't bother me. Seeing Emptymag OC while walking his dog at night wouldn't bother me cause I know him. Military personel OCing doesn't bother me. The guy behind the counter at the gunshop OCing doesn't bother me.
Are you going to try and tell me you wouldnt get suspicious at all if someone you don't know walk into a resturant at 3"45am OC'ing?
There happy I'm arguing with you again?"Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
Speed is fine, Accuracy is final
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December 27th, 2007, 11:02 AM #24
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I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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December 27th, 2007, 11:03 AM #25
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Good points. I too am more suspicious, in general, of those that I do not know are carrying (but might be) or that I know are carrying and hiding it. PROVIDED they are not conforming to my narrow minded view of what "normal" is. Everyone has their own idea what suspicious is, to them.
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December 27th, 2007, 11:06 AM #26
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December 27th, 2007, 11:11 AM #27Banned
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Re: Police confront OCer
I would no doubt take a second look and have a bit of "wonder" then go back to my business or if the opportunity presented itself, talk to the individual about guns. It's so not something you see everyday so it will get a second look from anybody.
Fat chance it's a BG carrying openly so from that perspective, I would treat him like anybody as a threat (maybe a little less knowing he's probably "One of us").
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December 27th, 2007, 11:12 AM #28
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Well, yes. I thrive on it It is my breakfast wheaties.
Seriously, it's hard to understand each other without discussion.
This is what I was trying to say. The above is your personal perception. Not human nature. If it was human nature to be suspicious of someone OC'ing or carrying a gun you would ne suspicious of yourself and LEO and the gun shop guys. IOW, your relating the gun to a non uniformed or other familiar person as suspicious. Not everyone os going to do this, or not for the same circumstances.
I might be suspicious of someone with baggy pants and a big mouth. It's my personal perception, based on my perception of what those things represent. Not human nature and not necessarily the same way you would react.
No, I'm not going to say either way because I am not there and I can not personally profile the person.
I will say that someone OC'ing is not an automatic flag for suspicion, for me. It is not a automatic reason for a positive response either.
Upon seeing someone (else ) OC I will either be suspicious or comforted based on the rest of the circumstances incuding the OC'ers appearance and demeanor.
I guess m biggest point is that it is not an automatic red flag as you seem to be implting it is for you. I just see no reason for a gun to = suspicion, in and of itself.
EmptyMag's post is a good example of what I'm saying.
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December 27th, 2007, 11:17 AM #29
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From my personal experiences OC'ing and the observations I've made of other people's reaction to my OC'ing, I'd say this is the reaction (the way I've read it) of the vast majority of folks that actually even notice. I've seen what I would consider to be obvious "gun guys", taka e a second look and go on their way. Also have had a few people come up and ask about it.
I concur. Lacking any other "suspicious" (to me) behavior or appearance, the OC'er is the bottom of my threat assessment for the moment.
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