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December 25th, 2007, 10:30 PM #21Active Member
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Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
Glad to be of service. I think there are enough hunters that people are at least comfortable with firearms. Especially in the suburbs, at least in blue collar areas, I know alot of people with LTCF even if they don't carry. Almost everyone that I associate with on a daily basis has one. Quite a few of them carry. I think the more people carrying, the better, public opinion-wise.
My response to open carry, when there is a response, has been usually positive.
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December 25th, 2007, 10:35 PM #22Active Member
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Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
Thank you for the welcome, sir. I came back to PA from a combat zone. That experience taught me a few things, which motivated me to carry, and eventually to open carry. I guess I just got to used to carrying my arms in the open. I see it as a right of human beings, and a sign of citizenship.
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December 25th, 2007, 10:36 PM #23Banned
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December 25th, 2007, 10:42 PM #24
Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
So basically they can arrest you and there's really nothing we can do to change it? That's weak. Ahhhhhhh, freedom.
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December 25th, 2007, 10:46 PM #25Active Member
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Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
While the majority of politics in the Steel City leaves me wanting, I can say I've had mostly positive experiences with city officers. It's the municipal guys that literally scare me to death. I've been in large fist fights, messy affairs, and dealt with city cops who really didn't seem to care that I was armed. They did their job, ran the serial numbers, checked my license (I was concealed at the time), and let me go. I've walked by city officers in convenience stores who either didn't notice or didn't care that I was open carrying.
It's the municipal guys that I'd rather never inform that I'm armed. I had one draw on me, safety off, finger on the trigger, because I informed him that I was carrying. I'll never do that again. I could comment on this situation more, but it would be unbecoming of this forum and my past associations.
I'll take it as a given that there are "tactical" tradeoffs on the concealed/open carry aspect. I make my choice based on my criteria as I see fit, and I'm glad that we live in a place where it's open to debate.
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December 25th, 2007, 10:51 PM #26Active Member
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To be honest, I'm aware of the possibility that someone may take me to jail for doing what I have a right to do. I also can't afford an attorney. It's a risk I take with full knowledge of the possible outcome. Life has taught me that liberty is inherently dangerous, and must at times be defended with great peril. This is not to denigrate those who do not, we all choose our battles. Personally, I'd be willing to fight the legal battles without representation, if need be, and suffer the consequences. I'd much rather be physically imprisoned for doing what I have a right to, than mentally imprisoned by the fear of such.
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December 25th, 2007, 10:59 PM #27Active Member
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Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
There are advantages and disadvantages. Read through a military manual on battlefield deception and you'll find arguments for both sides. Sometimes the deception is not worthwhile, or simply not to your advantage. The adversary may know that you are armed, but may have no idea how you'll react to an attempted disarm.
Likewise, the affects of the knowledge or lack thereof has an unknown affect on the adversary. It is possible that under the condition of open carry an assailant may choose another target, or may choose to engage you by gaining the advantage of your weapon. Concealed carry doesn't really change this decision point, the assailant may view you as a viable target or not. The metric by which they do this is not fixed.
Whichever choice you make, you'll have to brainstorm what advantages and disadvantages such a situation may bring to the table for you. Certainly open carry brings about a risk that must be mitigated, but likewise concealed carry has its own mix of risks.
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December 25th, 2007, 11:23 PM #28
Re: Allegheny County- thought I'd share.
Jared,
WELCOME to the forum, and THANK YOU for your service!
Glad to see more accounts of OC in the area.
Those are some well written, intelligent posts.
You are absolutely correct in that there are advantages and disadvantages to both OC and CC... what works for one person may not work for another.
To be honest, I'm aware of the possibility that someone may take me to jail for doing what I have a right to do. I also can't afford an attorney. It's a risk I take with full knowledge of the possible outcome. Life has taught me that liberty is inherently dangerous, and must at times be defended with great peril. This is not to denigrate those who do not, we all choose our battles. Personally, I'd be willing to fight the legal battles without representation, if need be, and suffer the consequences. I'd much rather be physically imprisoned for doing what I have a right to, than mentally imprisoned by the fear of such.
My own experience with OCing leaves me wondering WTF people are talking about when they make wild assumptions about the reactions of the public and law enforcement, based upon... well, based upon nothing but their own fears and wild imagination. I have some experience on that end of the OC "debate"... I used to think that all of these "bad things" would happen.
They don't.
Here are some more Pittsburgh area OC threads if you're interested.
Here's a link to many of my own OC experiences.
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...ny-county.html
Here's one that Skuggi started.
http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...eferrerid=2476
Oh, and regarding the "gun grab" argument that I see repeated over and over... anyone who attempts to remove my Glock is going to get an extra helping of holster, belt, Levis, and my ass, because you can't just "grab" my handgun. I don't think OC "haters" ever even consider retention holsters.I called to check my ZIP CODE!....DY-NO-MITE!!!
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December 26th, 2007, 12:29 AM #29Grand Member
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December 26th, 2007, 12:33 AM #30Grand Member
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