Militia of the Several States

[mosseater]

Hi folks! Brand new here and gonna jump right in with a question. Has anybody done any research on or know anything about current legislation still on the books about PA Militia (the Constitutional one, not any other)? I'm thinking about organizing Committees of Safety in order to enact new legislation for the purpose of revitalizing Constitutional Militia as per the founding. I have found a listing under Title 51, but haven't found the actual legislation yet. Thanks for any help.

If any of you recognize me from the USCCA board, yeah...it's me.

[andrewjs18]

Hi folks! Brand new here and gonna jump right in with a question. Has anybody done any research on or know anything about current legislation still on the books about PA Militia (the Constitutional one, not any other)? I'm thinking about organizing Committees of Safety in order to enact new legislation for the purpose of revitalizing Constitutional Militia as per the founding. I have found a listing under Title 51, but haven't found the actual legislation yet. Thanks for any help.

If any of you recognize me from the USCCA board, yeah...it's me.

this is something I've been looking into for the past few weeks and got side tracked. I'd also like to know because I believe the militia still would play a pivotal role in preserving our liberty if the need ever arose.

we did have some talk about the militia a while back on another forum:
http://paforliberty.com/forum/thread...ia-in-our-time

[twoguns]

This is an interesting, relevant and timely question.

I think it is imperative that like minded folks start to plan for the inevitable and coordinate efforts that will be instrumental in re-creating civil society in the aftermath of what is coming.

Communication networks (alternative to modern technology) will be of primary importance for pre and post crisis. Training structures in not only the use of arms but also food production, education, etc. Trade and barter arrangements set in place before the crisis. A network of freedom loving individuals for support and exchange of ideas and real goods. Safe houses is another thing that would be a valuable tool for survival. These networks would also need to reach out to other like minded groups in neighboring states.

A good book for insights into how well organized the Founder's militia was is: PAUL REVERE'S RIDE by David Hackett Fischer. Those folks didn't one day just say we have had enough and start shooting. They were well organized and in constant communication with each other. They traded goods and services and established a trusted network to rely on in the hard times.

Are there other folks who see this as a valuable goal to work toward?

[bac0nfat]

Count me in. Isn't the PAZRT basically our militia right now?

[twoguns]

Count me in. Isn't the PAZRT basically our militia right now?

that is a scary thought!
surely we can do better than that.

[acosenza2]

Tagging to follow along.

[vinman]

Hey all,

Alleghaneyrangers@Safe-mail.net

Also they can be contacted at www.unitedstatesmilitia.com

If you are in Bucks, Chester, Montgomery, Delaware, or Philadelphia counties, send me a PM with contact info and I will get in touch with you. These counties comprise the Pennsylvania Allegheny Rangers sector 2. I currently direct this sector. We welcome active and retired military and law enforcement as well as civilians. We are setting up FTX in the near future. and are looking to create a Community Emergency Response team as well.

[mosseater]

Forgive me if other's have already done the legwork on this. Don't mean to be redundant. I've been studying the Federalist and the works of Dr. Edwin Vieira on "Constitutional Homeland Security", a book I highly recommend. My understanding is we cannot revitalize until we organize Committees of Safetly and go about the necessary work of passing legislation specific to re-establishing the Militia. Other names that have been given (ie., "unorganized militia") are NOT Constitutional, and are therefore invalid (and in fact, maybe detrimental to the cause). There is only ONE form of Constitutional Militia enumerated and all others have no standing in the public form or Republican Government. Again, I had no understanding until a year or so ago, so if you don't either, I highly recommend Dr. Vieira's book. I'm not historically a "joiner" of causes, but this one really caught my eye and I'm feeling a compulsion to get moving and take action. No offense meant to anyone, just trying to do this right.

[WhiteFeather]

Hi folks! Brand new here and gonna jump right in with a question. Has anybody done any research on or know anything about current legislation still on the books about PA Militia (the Constitutional one, not any other)? I'm thinking about organizing Committees of Safety in order to enact new legislation for the purpose of revitalizing Constitutional Militia as per the founding. I have found a listing under Title 51, but haven't found the actual legislation yet. Thanks for any help.

If any of you recognize me from the USCCA board, yeah...it's me.

There was a BIG movement for this in the early 1990's, after Waco / ruby ridge and before OKC bombings, the info you seek is still out there. Quite a lot BTW, including some people begging government for permission first..

Either way

Don't violate this law or any Other in any way, shape or form or face the consequences, unlike criminals you will be closily watched, tracked, infiltrated setup and aggressively prosecuted. They are looking for domestic enemies to justify the expansion of control over all of US.

Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act
http://acslpa.org/html/pa_uniform_firearms_act.html

Prohibiting of paramilitary training - 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 5515

§ 5515. Prohibiting of paramilitary training.

(a) Definitions.--As used in this section the following
words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this
subsection:

"Civil disorder." Any public disturbance involving acts of
violence by assemblages of three or more persons, which causes
an immediate danger of or results in damage or injury to the
property or person of any other individual.

"Explosive or incendiary device." Includes:

(1) dynamite and all other forms of high explosives;
(2) any explosive bomb, grenade, missile or similar
device; and
(3) any incendiary bomb or grenade, fire bomb or similar
device, including any device which:
(i) consists of or includes a breakable container
including a flammable liquid or compound and a wick
composed of any material which, when ignited, is capable
of igniting such flammable liquid or compound; and
(ii) can be carried or thrown by one individual
acting alone.

"Firearm." Any weapon which is designed to or may readily be
converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive;
or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.

"Law enforcement officer." Any officer or employee of the
United States, any state, any political subdivision of a state
or the District of Columbia and such term shall specifically
include, but shall not be limited to, members of the National
Guard, as defined in 10 U.S.C. § 101(9), members of the
organized militia of any state or territory of the United
States, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico or the District of
Columbia, not included within the definition of National Guard
as defined by 10 U.S.C. § 101(9) and members of the armed forces
of the United States.

(b) Prohibited training.--
(1) Whoever teaches or demonstrates to any other person
the use application, or making of any firearm, explosive or
incendiary device or technique capable of causing injury or
death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or
intending that same will be unlawfully employed for use in,
or in furtherance of, a civil disorder commits a misdemeanor
of the first degree.

(2) Whoever assembles with one or more persons for the
purpose of training with, practicing with or being instructed
in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device or
technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, said
person intending to employ unlawfully the same for use in or
in furtherance of a civil disorder commits a misdemeanor of
the first degree.

(c) Exemptions.--Nothing contained in this section shall
make unlawful any act of any law enforcement officer which is
performed in the lawful performance of his official duties.

(d) Excluded activities.--Nothing contained in this section
shall make unlawful any activity of the Game Commission, Fish
and Boat Commission, or any law enforcement agency, or any
hunting club, rifle club, rifle range, pistol range, shooting
range or other program or individual instruction intended to
teach the safe handling or use of firearms, archery equipment or
other weapons or techniques employed in connection with lawful
sports or other lawful activities.

(June 11, 1982, P.L.476, No.138, eff. 180 days; Mar. 19, 1992,
P.L.18, No.7, eff. imd.)

1992 Amendment. Act 7 amended subsec. (d).
1982 Amendment. Act 138 added section 5515.
Cross References. Section 5515 is referred to in sections
6105, 6120 of this title.

Note the fine print in the law with the prohibition on Paramilitary training along with exemptions.

You also will note their is NOTHING listed here in the Un organized militia, that is mentioned in USC title 10 & other sections in title 10 USC

§ 311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Good luck on enacting new legislation in PA, it would be like asking king George after the boston tea party & just prior to April 19, 1775 for permission first to create OPFOR. Tread lightly LOL

[andrewjs18]

This is an interesting, relevant and timely question.

I think it is imperative that like minded folks start to plan for the inevitable and coordinate efforts that will be instrumental in re-creating civil society in the aftermath of what is coming.

Communication networks (alternative to modern technology) will be of primary importance for pre and post crisis. Training structures in not only the use of arms but also food production, education, etc. Trade and barter arrangements set in place before the crisis. A network of freedom loving individuals for support and exchange of ideas and real goods. Safe houses is another thing that would be a valuable tool for survival. These networks would also need to reach out to other like minded groups in neighboring states.

A good book for insights into how well organized the Founder's militia was is: PAUL REVERE'S RIDE by David Hackett Fischer. Those folks didn't one day just say we have had enough and start shooting. They were well organized and in constant communication with each other. They traded goods and services and established a trusted network to rely on in the hard times.

Are there other folks who see this as a valuable goal to work toward?

I think the tragedies of Hurricane Katrina has bred new life to the actual purpose of preparing for a SHTF disaster.

I'm very much into the SHTF stuff. watch LOTS of survival videos and read a bunch of survival forums.