Question: Are you forced to CC by law when you are issued a LTCF?

[the1jeffy]

I had an argument with an ex-LEO about this today. I was hoping to print out the statutes for him, but I can find them.

He says that your right to OC only asks to be hassled, and when you are issued a LTCF you no longer can OC, only CC.

I said OC is perfectly legal with or without a LTCF unless you are in Philly.

We had a bit of a tiff about it, and I stopped it by saying I would get evidence. I used the forum search but the results are too many to go through. Please help!

[streaker69]

He's wrong. Have him find anywhere on the LTCF that says "concealed".

[chucksniper]

You will learn that cops, especially ex cops don't know the law.... Call Philly division, they issue permits and ask them. The phone number is 215-685-3663... be safe. Do not rely on cops.

[rady8um]

Expect a lot of replies to your question. The LEO could not be any more incorrect.

To steal someone elses quote,

"Does your right to walk down the street end when you get a drivers license?"

[the1jeffy]

Thanks for the replies. I know he's wrong from my time lurking here, but I was hoping for something concrete to toss his way.

[marinakorp]

Licencing allows the activities, it does not specifically exclude any other legal activity.

Since open carry is legal (some restrictions do apply) the fact that you have a license allows you more flexibility in carrying your firearme, as you deem fit.

A similar example is a drivers license (dont start on a right vs privilidge!)... since I have a license to drive, does that mean I HAVE to drive everywhere... cant take my bike, walk, bus...etc. Of course not. It allows me to drive when I find it convenient for me to drive, or to take my bicicle, walk, etc.

[PhillyGunslinger]

This may help, I got it from another thread but it can apply here.......
Question #3- What can police legally do when they observe a person engaging in
open carry?
Answer #3- In most cases, the police cannot engage the person in anything other
than a mere encounter. Unless the person engaged in lawful open carry is in
violation of a specific State or Federal firearm prohibition or is carrying in a
restricted area (For example: prohibitions contained in §6105, possession by a
minor §6110.1, possession on school property §912, possession in a court
facility §913, carrying in Philadelphia §6108, carrying in a vehicle, carrying
during a declared state of emergency §6107), the officer would not have specific
reasonable suspicion of criminal activity merely based on observing a person
engaged in open carry. Therefore, a stop and frisk or any other seizure would
not be legally justified.

[topsykretts]

I had an argument with an ex-LEO about this today. I was hoping to print out the statutes for him, but I can find them.

He says that your right to OC only asks to be hassled, and when you are issued a LTCF you no longer can OC, only CC.

I said OC is perfectly legal with or without a LTCF unless you are in Philly.

We had a bit of a tiff about it, and I stopped it by saying I would get evidence. I used the forum search but the results are too many to go through. Please help!

"LICENSE TO CARRY FIREARMS"

NOT "LICENSE TO CARRY FIREARMS.. CONCEALED"

[The_War_Wagon]

Geez... I hope I'm not "forced." I generally take it off in the shower, and when I'm asleep!

[streaker69]

Geez... I hope I'm not "forced." I generally take it off in the shower, and when I'm asleep!

If you carried a glock, you wouldn't have to take it off in the shower. Sleeping on the other hand, I wear something a little softer.