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    Default UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011
    UTAH CFP CLASS - (CARRY in 33 states with RESIDENT PA LTCF also . . . UTAH CFP only 29 states including PA legally!!!)

    (Reciprocity agreements change frequently so please confirm before traveling)

    Course Date: March 26th, 2011
    Course start time (9:30 registration - class at 10:00 - 14:00)
    Course Location: Greenawalds Fire Company
    2500 Focht Avenue, Allentown, Pennsylvania 18104
    Course Cost: $110.00 - Utah CFP ONLY -- $20.00 deposit required to register

    A live fire option (at a nearby range) will be offered for additional fee of 40.00 to meet other states CCW (Arizona, Florida) requirements. Includes student manaul, additional set of fingerprints fingerprints, targets, range time, and certificate of completion


    Mail payments too:

    Team Life, Inc.
    P.O. Box 588, Trevose, PA 19053.

    Certified Check, Cashiers Check, or Money Order. Paypal -- info@team-life.org Cash ONLY at the door.


    (NO PERSONAL CHECKS ACCEPTED)

    What is included: Utah CFP class, fingerprints, (6) passport size photos,
    your state issued Drivers License or State ID photocopied for
    packet, and a preaddressed envelope to the UTAH BCI to facilitate
    return of your completed package. You will leave the class with the
    packet COMPLETE. We will be doing the fingerprints, copying of
    Drivers License/State ID, and passport size photos on site.

    ONE STOP SHOPPING!


    No need to get fingerprints, passport photos, photo copying, etc. done elsewhere. Completion of Utah CFP class also meets requirements for an Arizona and/or Florida Concealed Weapons Permit if you complete an optional live fire exercise at conclusion of classroom portion. A notarized affidavit attesting to completion of course and live fire for use in obtaining an Arizona and/or Florida Non Resident permit and additional fingerprints will be provided if requested. This way you can get a Utah and a Arizona and/or Florida Permit if you would like. Light snacks and beverages will also be provided at no additional charge.

    NOTE: You may download the application from the UTAH BCI site ahead of time if you desire. Application is double sided.

    http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/doc...ccwapp_009.pdf

    (Utah state application fee not included.)

    Gregory R. Brown
    Deputy Chief, Training Division
    Utah CFP Instructor
    NRA Instructor, Chief Range Safety Officer
    Team Life, Inc.
    P.O. Box 588
    Trevose, Pennsylvania 19053
    (215) 310-5436 office
    (267) 228-1943 cell
    (800) 469-6914 E-Fax
    info@team-life.org
    www.team-life.org
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    Last edited by gbrown221; March 7th, 2011 at 01:17 PM.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    I've been interested in this class for a while, and this one is the closest to me so far, so hopefully I can make it. I am interested in an Arizona permit as well, so I had some questions about the live fire option. I see on the PDF it says $40, but what is included in that? I'm assuming we would bring our own guns, but what about ammo, targets, etc., and if we need to bring those as well, how much is needed? Also, where will the live fire be taking place, and is there a time frame for that portion?

    I'll be checking my schedule this week, but hopefully I, and possibly a few friends, will be able to attend.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    The 40.00 dollars for the optional live fire includes student manual, 2 sets of fingerprints for Arizona, targets, range time, and certificate of completion. Ideally an individual should bring a firearm they intend to carry but I will have 22 caliber target pistols available for those not owning or possesing a firearm.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    Since I am a NJ resident, would I be able to carry in Philly with a non-resident UT permit?

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by CageFighter View Post
    Since I am a NJ resident, would I be able to carry in Philly with a non-resident UT permit?
    Yes you would be able to carry anywhere in the Commonwealth of PA.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by CageFighter View Post
    Since I am a NJ resident, would I be able to carry in Philly with a non-resident UT permit?
    Yes except school zones. Without a PA LTCF you are technically not allowed to carry in school zones according to the Federal Gun Free School Zones Act.

    From Title 18 U.S.C §922(q)

    (A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.


    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—

    (i) on private property not part of school grounds;

    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    If you also possess an NJ Carry Permit you could also apply for a PA Non Resident LTCF to cover the school zone portion.

    I am not sure if there is any case law yet about carrying in a school zone with a permit whom PA has reciprocity with.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by gbrown221 View Post
    If you also possess an NJ Carry Permit you could also apply for a PA Non Resident LTCF to cover the school zone portion.

    I am not sure if there is any case law yet about carrying in a school zone with a permit whom PA has reciprocity with.
    Here are some cases pertaining to the Gun Free School Zone Act that may have that info. See the attached file for the ATF's position regarding falling within the exceptions. Carry at your own risk.


    United States v Danks (Eighth Circuit 1999)

    United States v Tait (Eleventh Circuit 2000)

    United States v Haywood (Third Circuit 2002)

    United States v Smith (Sixth Circuit 2005)

    United States v Dorsey (Ninth Circuit 2005)

    United States v Nieves-Castaño (First Circuit 2007)

    United States v Weekes (Third Circuit 2007)

    United States v Benally (Tenth Circuit 2007)

    United States v Cruz-Rodriguez (First Circuit 2008)
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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    GL:

    Thank you for the relevevant case information for review.

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    Default Re: UTAH CFP COURSE, ALLENTOWN, PA (LEHIGH COUNTY) MARCH 26, 2011

    I have a better chance of being the next president than getting my NJ CCW permit. Philly passed a new ordnance, just wanted to make sure the UT permit will be accepted there. im not interested in the big house.

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