The Usual Suspects Continue SB 620

[Brick]

Disqualification after conviction is not enough. Let's expand it to disqualified if CHARGED. Note NOT indicted simply Charged.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA
SENATE BILL No. 620
Session of 2011

INTRODUCED BY FARNESE, LEACH, WILLIAMS, TARTAGLIONE, WASHINGTON AND HUGHES, FEBRUARY 23, 2011

REFERRED TO JUDICIARY, FEBRUARY 23, 2011
AN ACT

1 Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
2 Consolidated Statutes, further providing for persons not to
3 possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer
4 firearms.
5 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
6 hereby enacts as follows:
7 Section 1. Section 6105(c) of Title 18 of the Pennsylvania
8 Consolidated Statutes is amended by adding a paragraph to read:
9 § 6105. Persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell
10 or transfer firearms.
11 * * *
12 (c) Other persons.--In addition to any person who has been
13 convicted of any offense listed under subsection (b), the
14 following persons shall be subject to the prohibition of
15 subsection (a):
16 * * *
17 (10) A person who is charged with a felony under one of
18 the following offenses:
19 Section 2502 (relating to murder).
1 Section 2503 (relating to voluntary manslaughter).
2 Section 2702 (relating to aggravated assault).
3 Section 2703 (relating to assault by prisoner).
4 Section 2901 (relating to kidnapping).
5 Section 3121 (relating to rape).
6 Section 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual
7 intercourse).
8 Section 3301 (relating to arson and related
9 offenses).
10 Section 3502 (relating to burglary).
11 Section 3701 (relating to robbery).
12 Section 3702 (relating to robbery of motor vehicle).
13 Section 3923 (relating to theft by extortion) when
14 the offense is accompanied by threats of violence.
15 Section 4952 (relating to intimidation of witnesses
16 or victims).
17 Section 4953 (relating to retaliation against
18 witness, victim or party).
19 Any offense equivalent to any of the offenses listed in this
20 paragraph under the prior laws of this Commonwealth or any
21 offense equivalent to any of the above-enumerated offenses
22 under the statutes of any other state or of the United
23 States.
24 Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days

see:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=0620&pn=0629

I think I would like to file a felony charge of perjury against these Senators. Do you think they would understand the implication?

[tes151]

Disqualification after conviction is not enough. Let's expand it to disqualified if CHARGED. Note NOT indicted simply Charged.


see:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=0620&pn=0629

I think I would like to file a felony charge of perjury against these Senators. Do you think they would understand the implication?

Of course not. They still don't get it that input from the Philly gang is no longer needed. PA is back to being a free state now.

[Big Chuck]

Is is just me, or isn't the state level restriction of firearm ownership questioning the right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State? Are you no longer a citizen of Pennsylvania after you have been convicted, let alone only charged with a crime? There really needs to be penalties for not upholding the state constitution when you have sworn to do so.

[PhillyAR]

This bill would be unconstitutional based on due process IHO.

[FNG19]

I think I would like to file a felony charge of perjury against these Senators. Do you think they would understand the implication?

Yes, they do. That implication is the desired outcome.

[IronSight]

I'm going to reach out to the ACLU on this one, since it's deserving of their attention and they'll understand the implications of it.

OP, thank you for posting.

[Xringshooter]

I fired off an email to my state senator (Jake Corman) about this and 619, 621 and 622. I'll follow up with a phone call tomorrow.

[jackyma]

I'm going to reach out to the ACLU on this one, since it's deserving of their attention and they'll understand the implications of it.

OP, thank you for posting.

i know from experience the ACLU will not help you with gun rights even if your other rights have been violated as well. they tell you they oppose guns and that the NRA would be better suited to help you.

[IronSight]

i know from experience the ACLU will not help you with gun rights even if your other rights have been violated as well. they tell you they oppose guns and that the NRA would be better suited to help you.

The ACLU has taken cases that could be consider "pro-gun" when other rights are involved, although they do so incredibly rarely.

Besides, I'm not looking for their help, just contacting them to see what the ACLU of PA's viewpoint on the legislation would be, if any.

[johnnysquire]

I'm no fan of the ACLU's politics, but I do admire their willingness to cross traditional lines on principle - see this example of ACLU taking a pro-gun case.