Transporting Rifles with accessible Ammo with a LTCF?

[Shadow Heart]

i tried a search and i may not have used the proper search criteria?.

but i was wondering about the transportation in a vehicle with a rifle and ammo readily available, IE: a tactical soft case with the external mag pouches with loaded mags. or even a loaded mag in the rifle? (un-chambered), while in possession of a PA LTCF.

[knight0334]

For long guns you cannot have any ammo in the chamber or in a fixed magazine. For guns that use detachable magazines, any loaded magazine must be in a separate container. Loose/boxed ammo can be stored anywhere, even ON the gun. However it cannot have ammo in the chamber, in a fixed mag, or with guns with detachable mag - no loaded mags in the same container.

You do not need the gun to be in a case, but any loaded magazines must then in a container.

No license is needed to have a long gun in your vehicle, except if are in a City of the First Class or there is a declared state of emergency. LTCF has no bearing on having loaded long guns in a vehicle.

With you wanting to use a case with external pouches - that would be ok. The external pouches are considered a separate container for the loaded magazines.

[Shadow Heart]

For long guns you cannot have any ammo in the chamber or in a fixed magazine. For guns that use detachable magazines, any loaded magazine must be in a separate container. Loose/boxed ammo can be stored anywhere, even ON the gun. However it cannot have ammo in the chamber, in a fixed mag, or with guns with detachable mag - no loaded mags in the same container.

You do not need the gun to be in a case, but any loaded magazines must then in a container.

No license is needed to have a long gun in your vehicle, except if are in a City of the First Class or there is a declared state of emergency. LTCF has no bearing on having loaded long guns in a vehicle.

With you wanting to use a case with external pouches - that would be ok. The external pouches are considered a separate container for the loaded magazines.

Thanks for that info, i was honestly not sure how it all fell into things while having a LTCF, and i am sure others were wondering as well. my other reason was as mentioned a tactical case with the external pouches.

[bac0nfat]

Your license to carry firearms doesn't have anything to do with it, because a rifle is not considered a "firearm" in the UFA. Makes no sense, I know.

[victory]

Interestingly, your LTCF does cover SBR's. I was actually thinking of building one just to simplify intrastate transport of a trunk gun. Since none of the surrounding states are particularly gun friendly, i'd be taking any guns out of my car before traveling interstate anyway, mitigating that problem.

[JayBell]

Your license to carry firearms doesn't have anything to do with it, because a rifle is not considered a "firearm" in the UFA. Makes no sense, I know.

err, your title 1 rifle is definitely considered a firearm in the UFA... just not a "firearm" for LTCF purposes.

remember, theres multiple definitions of firearms, depending on what section of the UFA and circumstance they are talking about.

[bac0nfat]

err, your title 1 rifle is definitely considered a firearm in the UFA... just not a "firearm" for LTCF purposes.

remember, theres multiple definitions of firearms, depending on what section of the UFA and circumstance they are talking about.

You're right, its just not considered a firearm in this context. Its ridiculous that there are multiple definitions of "firearm" in something called the UNIFORM Firearms Act.

[jcabin]

Interestingly, your LTCF does cover SBR's. I was actually thinking of building one just to simplify intrastate transport of a trunk gun. Since none of the surrounding states are particularly gun friendly, i'd be taking any guns out of my car before traveling interstate anyway, mitigating that problem.

If you leave the state with a NFA weapon you need to contact the ATF and make sure it's ok with them IIRC. I have also heard that you need to contact the chief of police who has jurisdiction over where you will be residing and make sure he's ok with it, but that one sounds like bullshit. Someone who knows better will pop in.

[Shadow Heart]

I was referring to an off the shelf type AR, nothing like a full-auto/burst rifle, Although my newly ordered Spikes Tactical Bio hazard lower is RDIAS cut, i am not willing to pay that money to use that option, unless they remove the federal ban on it.

overall i was not sure if it would be considered a concealed weapon or not and if my LTCF had any sway in it should i transport it (in state), with loaded mags in a tactical soft case with the external mag pouches or not. And not that i would transport it with a loaded mag in it normally, just figured i would add that in.

[jcabin]

I was referring to an off the shelf type AR, nothing like a full-auto/burst rifle, Although my newly ordered Spikes Tactical Bio hazard lower is RDIAS cut, i am not willing to pay that money to use that option, unless they remove the federal ban on it.

SBR is still NFA AFAIK.