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February 2nd, 2011, 02:30 PM #1Active Member
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Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
http://maddmedic.wordpress.com/2011/...-the-faa-bill/
Dear Madd,
I’ve just received word from inside sources in the U.S. Senate.
Senate Democrats are planning to execute a sneak attack on gun rights as soon as TODAY!
Their plan is to sneak Carolyn McCarthy’s Magazine Ban into law as an amendment to the Federal Aviation Administration Bill, a routine piece of generally non-controversial legislation.
And they hope YOU won’t notice.
That’s why you and I need to make our voices heard RIGHT NOW!
We need to let them know we’re watching them like a hawk!
Please call Sen. Al Franken at (202) 224-5641 and Sen. Amy Klobuchar at (202) 224-3244.
Make sure they know about this scheme and that they must oppose Carolyn McCarthy’s Magazine Ban every step of the way whether it’s attached as an amendment or not.
And make sure they know you’re watching.
Thanks for taking action,
Dudley Brown
Dudley Brown
Executive Director
National Association for Gun Rights
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February 2nd, 2011, 02:36 PM #2
Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
Everything thing the left does is through Legislative trickery. Or better labeled Legislative treachery. I submit these Anti-Americans should be tried for treason.
Last edited by PocketProtector; February 2nd, 2011 at 02:56 PM.
Its easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled....Mark Twain
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February 2nd, 2011, 05:48 PM #3Super Member
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Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
I've looked all over to try and find out if this is true.
AOPA (Aircraft Owners and Pilots Assoc.) Has several links to the senate's actions on this bill ... nothing about a mag. limit.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:s.223:
An open search on the Federal Aviation Administration Bill also doesn't show anything about the mag limit .... repeal of ObamaCare, and Toomey's debt ceiling proposal ... yes.
I can't even find the facebook page that's listed.
This seems to be a popular bill that will pass congress with little objection, so it's probable some "admendments" will try to be added so they can ride through, but the AOPA is pushing this bill to be sent through 'clean', no additional admendments, not even the Pilot-Fatigue Amendment.
I will be watching for it though.
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February 2nd, 2011, 06:53 PM #4Senior Member
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Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...?bill=h112-308
Jan 18, 2011 - Introduced in House. This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration. This is the latest version of the bill currently available on GovTrack.
HR 308 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 308
To prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 18, 2011
Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York (for herself, Mr. CLAY, Ms. NORTON, Mr. WEINER, Ms. ESHOO, Mr. ISRAEL, Mrs. MALONEY, Mr. ACKERMAN, Mr. MORAN, Ms. MCCOLLUM, Mr. BRADY of Pennsylvania, Mr. SERRANO, Ms. PINGREE of Maine, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. MCGOVERN, Ms. HARMAN, Mr. PASCRELL, Ms. HIRONO, Mr. VAN HOLLEN, Mrs. LOWEY, Mr. NADLER, Ms. EDWARDS, Mr. HASTINGS of Florida, Ms. MATSUI, Ms. WATERS, Mr. CICILLINE, Ms. CHU, Mr. SHERMAN, Mr. HOLT, Mr. CONNOLLY of Virginia, Ms. SLAUGHTER, Mr. ELLISON, Mr. QUIGLEY, Mr. MEEKS, Mr. HIMES, Mr. HONDA, Mr. LANGEVIN, Ms. SPEIER, Mr. COHEN, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. FARR, Mr. YARMUTH, Ms. JACKSON LEE of Texas, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. BLUMENAUER, Mr. BISHOP of New York, and Ms. DEGETTE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
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A BILL
To prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act’.
SEC. 2. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER OR POSSESSION OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.
(a) Definition- Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after paragraph (29) the following:
‘(30) The term ‘large capacity ammunition feeding device’--
‘(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; but
‘(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.’.
(b) Prohibitions- Section 922 of such title is amended by inserting after subsection (u) the following:
‘(v)(1)(A)(i) Except as provided in clause (ii), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
‘(ii) Clause (i) shall not apply to the possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device otherwise lawfully possessed within the United States on or before the date of the enactment of this subsection.
‘(B) It shall be unlawful for any person to import or bring into the United States a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
‘(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
‘(A) a manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
‘(B) a transfer to a licensee under title I of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 for purposes of establishing and maintaining an on-site physical protection system and security organization required by Federal law, or possession by an employee or contractor of such a licensee on-site for such purposes or off-site for purposes of licensee-authorized training or transportation of nuclear materials;
‘(C) the possession, by an individual who is retired from service with a law enforcement agency and is not otherwise prohibited from receiving ammunition, of a large capacity ammunition feeding device transferred to the individual by the agency upon that retirement; or
‘(D) a manufacture, transfer, or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.’.
(c) Penalties- Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following:
‘(8) Whoever knowingly violates section 922(v) shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.’.
(d) Identification Markings- Section 923(i) of such title is amended by adding at the end the following: ‘A large capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that clearly shows that the device was manufactured after such date of enactment, and such other identification as the Attorney General may by regulation prescribe.’.
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February 2nd, 2011, 09:11 PM #5Super Member
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Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
And how does this affect Senate Bill 223, the FAA bill presently in front of the Senate?
You're quoting a House Bill which will still have to pass the Senate, I'm talking about a Senate Bill that has already passed the House.
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February 2nd, 2011, 09:43 PM #6
Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
I couldn't find anything about it in this text of the bill.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s223/textΜολὼν λάβε
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February 4th, 2011, 08:05 PM #7
Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
I just received this from GOA not 5 minutes ago.
Magazine Ban, Gun Show Ban and Even a Gun Ownership Ban...
-- All this and more may come up in the Senate!
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://gunowners.org
Friday, February 4, 2011
Since the Tucson tragedy, anti-gun Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) has been hovering like a vulture, waiting to pick the bones of the victims for political advantage.
Now he has his chance.
The same Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reauthorization which provided a vote on the repeal of ObamaCare may well be the vehicle for a series of gun control proposals.
Right now, no one knows which amendments will be offered. Democratic leaders like Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) are threatening to offer anti-gun amendments, and pro-gun Senators like Tom Coburn (R-OK) are considering amendments to protect gun rights.
Now, it's entirely possible that senators from both sides will simply retreat to their own corners. In fact, GOA's sources inside the Senate indicate that gun amendments to the FAA bill are unlikely at this point, but there's no way can we count on that -- and risk being caught unprepared.
There are three amendments which Lautenberg and Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) have been nursing since Tucson.
The first would limit semi-automatic magazines to 10 rounds, in a reprise of the Clinton ban.
The second would effectively shut down all gun shows. It would do this by sending any gun show promoter to prison for up to two years if a SINGLE attendee were not informed of his Brady Law obligations. No one would dare sponsor a gun show under these circumstances.
The third anti-gun amendment would allow the Obama administration to seize guns from anyone they choose to place on a "watch list." Millions and millions of pro-gun supporters could find their names on an ObamaList with no due process -- and no way to get their names removed. Please note that this administration has already advised law enforcement to treat supporters of the Constitution and gun rights as possible domestic terrorists!
ACTION: Contact your two senators. Ask them to support any pro-gun amendments, and definitely insist they vote against the Lautenberg/Durbin amendments to ban semi-automatic magazines, shut down gun shows, and create a "no guns list" of Second Amendment activists. You can click on the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center
http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/a...ertid=25971501
to send your senators a pre-written message.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".
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February 4th, 2011, 09:02 PM #8Super Member
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Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
DONE!!! DONE!!!
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February 5th, 2011, 12:11 AM #9
Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
Magazine Ban, Gun Show Ban and Even a Gun Ownership Ban...
-- All this and more may come up in the Senate!
Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://gunowners.org
Friday, February 4, 2011
Since the Tucson tragedy, anti-gun Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) has been hovering like a vulture, waiting to pick the bones of the victims for political advantage.
Now he has his chance.
The same Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reauthorization which provided a vote on the repeal of ObamaCare may well be the vehicle for a series of gun control proposals.
Right now, no one knows which amendments will be offered. Democratic leaders like Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) are threatening to offer anti-gun amendments, and pro-gun Senators like Tom Coburn (R-OK) are considering amendments to protect gun rights.
Now, it's entirely possible that senators from both sides will simply retreat to their own corners. In fact, GOA's sources inside the Senate indicate that gun amendments to the FAA bill are unlikely at this point, but there's no way can we count on that -- and risk being caught unprepared.
There are three amendments which Lautenberg and Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) have been nursing since Tucson.
The first would limit semi-automatic magazines to 10 rounds, in a reprise of the Clinton ban.
The second would effectively shut down all gun shows. It would do this by sending any gun show promoter to prison for up to two years if a SINGLE attendee were not informed of his Brady Law obligations. No one would dare sponsor a gun show under these circumstances.
The third anti-gun amendment would allow the Obama administration to seize guns from anyone they choose to place on a "watch list." Millions and millions of pro-gun supporters could find their names on an ObamaList with no due process -- and no way to get their names removed. Please note that this administration has already advised law enforcement to treat supporters of the Constitution and gun rights as possible domestic terrorists!
ACTION: Contact your two senators. Ask them to support any pro-gun amendments, and definitely insist they vote against the Lautenberg/Durbin amendments to ban semi-automatic magazines, shut down gun shows, and create a "no guns list" of Second Amendment activists. You can click on the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center
http://capwiz.com/gunowners/issues/alertid=25971501
to send your senators a pre-written message.
As of tonight, there are now 46 amendments submitted to the Senate Floor, NONE OF THEM have to deal with 2 amendment issues.
Senate is to reconvene Monday at 2:00PM.
This is not to say come Monday that Frank Lautenberg doesn't offer his "Package of Common Sense Gun Bills" as amendments.
It is very wise to let our legislators know we are not in support of such Legislation, offered either as a Bill, or as an Amendment (Rider) to another piece of Legislation.
I think its time we all learned how to use the Thomas Collection at the Library of Congress to our fullest benefit, especially since our tax dollars pays for it.
J........
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February 5th, 2011, 10:04 AM #10Grand Member
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Re: Magazine Ban hidden in the FAA bill?
It's stunning to me that the penalty for having an 11 round magazine could be 10 years in prison, but I could drive down the road at 100mph after drinking a fifth of Jack, and at most, I might spend a weekend in jail and lose my license.
Almost a LIB .... ertarian
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