"No one has any business having or carrying a gun"

[FormerUser123]

It's times like this that I'm glad my boss is a 2a supporter and has a gun collection that dwarfs my own... Now if only he'd pay me what he pays himself, I could give im a run for his money. Coincidentaly, with his money as well lol.

[Flash]

My daddy used to say: "Never pass up an opportunity to keep your trap shut."

A lesson I've yet to grasp fully, but appreciate more and more as the years pass.

'Twas my MOM who used to say; "Stop and think! The better part of valor is
discretion, in which better part you may save your life." (She loved Shakespeare, but often bent his words to fit real life.)

The longer these lessons go with us, as RK noted, the deeper the root they take.

Flash

[MDJschool]

Notions like this

no one has any business owning a gun and certainly no business carrying one "unless they're a cop".

it's not even legal till you're over 25 years old.

come to exist for the same reasons as notions like this

That part, in theory I can at least respect. It's probably on the inconsiderate side to assume you can openly carry to a stranger's home, at least make an effort to conceal or leave it in the car.

If a majority (not just a majority of one) was to take our various rights (to keep and bear arms, defend life and liberty, protect property, etc.) and duties (armed for the defense of the Commonwealth, deterrence to tyranny, etc.) seriously, most people would be armed most of the time, and it would be hard to fathom that it would be "inconsiderate" to carry a firearm without shame into another's home -- he would be armed, and so would he, and they would be, and so would she, and you, too, because you all knew how important your life and liberty was, and you would be ready to allow neither the petty criminal nor the state to infringe at any time. At such a place and time where that wouldn't seem 'weird' to you or them, you'd all probably know better about the apparent age for carry, and that cops are not some divine elite nor are they particularly trained.

If you think carrying a firearm -- oh my god -- exposed -- it's the BOOGIEMAN -- is inconsiderate, then you may have just been among peers when your boss was babbling about how he prefers a slave-mentality.

[Pector55]

Sorry but I disagree with the notion that remaining silent is somehow wise. There are tactful ways to disagree with someone and express yourself with facts so as to not be confrontational or abrassive. I would have shared my opinion. I believe that too many in our country have been guided by what is perceived to be a majority opinion. In many cases, it's just because the majority are scared and won't speak up.

[PennsyPlinker]

It is easy to see that your boss is full of himself. People who declaim at length to others who have no way to express their own opinion without fear of retribution are narcissist in the extreme. He gets to sit there and run his yap, while everyone else sits there and either takes it, or sucks up to him. In any case, he walks away thinking how smart and good he is, when it really ain't so.

There is nothing you can really do about it, unless you have another job to go to. I have been there. You were wise to keep your mouth shut. There is no way you are going to argue him to a sensible position. All you would do is make your own situation worse. A man like this very likely regards his employees as inferior to himself, or he would not run his yap the way he does. I have worked for myself for the last 17 years. They pay ain't great, but I love my boss. He insists that I carry - openly - at work.

[ungawa]

13 years for me. And my boss turned out to be a prick

[Connal]

I'll go OC in front of your boss wearing my group shoot shirt. Hell, I'll OC a few handguns at once.

What is he going to do? Fire me? lol

[JasonK007]

The prevailing pig headed idea being spewed by the big boss is that no one has any business owning a gun and certainly no business carrying one "unless they're a cop".

My roommate is the same way. The problem with these people is they only hear what the media spews and hardly get the chance to hear the "real truth about guns." As much as I try to educate my roommate, he'll never get it.

Maybe in your case you could find some literature on the benefits of an armed society and slip it under his office door.

[richrock]

Notions like this

come to exist for the same reasons as notions like this


If a majority (not just a majority of one) was to take our various rights (to keep and bear arms, defend life and liberty, protect property, etc.) and duties (armed for the defense of the Commonwealth, deterrence to tyranny, etc.) seriously, most people would be armed most of the time, and it would be hard to fathom that it would be "inconsiderate" to carry a firearm without shame into another's home -- he would be armed, and so would he, and they would be, and so would she, and you, too, because you all knew how important your life and liberty was, and you would be ready to allow neither the petty criminal nor the state to infringe at any time. At such a place and time where that wouldn't seem 'weird' to you or them, you'd all probably know better about the apparent age for carry, and that cops are not some divine elite nor are they particularly trained.

If you think carrying a firearm -- oh my god -- exposed -- it's the BOOGIEMAN -- is inconsiderate, then you may have just been among peers when your boss was babbling about how he prefers a slave-mentality.

Allow me to rephrase. I don't believe it's inconsiderate but maybe presumptive to assume, at least in my area, that openly carrying into a strangers home won't at least raise some eyebrows. I don't agree with the idea, nor promote it, but for the sake of the young man who was asked to leave I'm simply saying he probably could have avoided being asked to leave and still have carried. That's why I say I'm not certain how exactly he should have handled it if the visitor insists on OC as a guest in a stranger's home, just as if he had walked into the stranger's home and farted in the kitchen it might be frowned upon (or laughed at because in my house farts are funny and guns are encouraged...actually farts are encouraged also). I'm not quite sure I can articulate what I'm trying to get out here, but I'm fairly certain both the visitor and home owner could have had their way...somehow.

[richrock]

Maybe what I'm trying to say is that the OC'er probably could have anticipated that his method of carry may alarm an ill-informed and narrow minded anti by walking into a stranger's home while OCing. It's unfortunate, and it's not an opinion I share, but there is no denying the fact remains that many people are so plainly ignorant of other's rights to carry that they think only a maniac carries.

Similar to walking into a store OCing, at least locally to me, would be cause for concern to many 2A negligent shop owners. Debatable as it is, it seems the law favors property owner's over the individual's rights when it comes to carrying and if you aren't ready with a perfect argument to defend your right to carry you run the risk of being kicked off the property.

I'd have given the guy a big thumbs up, because OC is by far in the minority in my part of the state, but I'd love to see more of it. I don't like having to admit it, but I'm fairly certain OC is widely disapproved up around me (as is CC for that matter). However I am happy to see the tide seems to be changing in our favor, with more and more CC and the rare OC making an appearance.