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December 13th, 2010, 10:24 AM #1
Mexican cartels wielding American weapons
No other state has produced more guns seized by police in the brutal Mexican drug wars than Texas. In the Lone Star State, no other city has more guns linked to Mexican crime scenes than Houston. And in the Texas oil town, no single independent dealer stands out more for selling guns traced from south of the border than Bill Carter.
Carter, 76, has operated four Carter's Country stores in the Houston metropolitan area over the past half-century. In the past two years, more than 115 guns from his stores have been seized by the police and military in Mexico....Je suis déplorable
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December 13th, 2010, 10:55 AM #2
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Interesting news read. Personally, could give a damn less about Mexico's gun problem or any problem they have really. The article is just more bullshit about gun control in the US via Mexico's poor me situation.
If Mexico stops the flow of drugs north, I'm pretty sure the flow of very limited guns south would stop too.
In the end, I just don't care about Mexico but I do care about ultra liberals who want the US to cede to any foreign country about anything.
CL
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December 13th, 2010, 11:03 AM #3
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Re: Mexican cartels wielding American weapons
So the cartels can find/steal/buy submarines, planes, speed boats, fast cars, etc buy they need to come to the US to buy their guns? Give me a break. Arms dealers across the world would ship there in an instant for the cartels with cash.
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Re: Mexican cartels wielding American weapons
Actually the problem is a lot more simpler than that, if Americans stop buying and using billions of dollars of Narcotics their wouldnt be any problem period.
You cant solve the problem through supply you solve it through demand, the problem is Americans love drugs and is willing to spend billions of dollars for it so there will always be a supplier, remember when they banned liquor in the US? The demand went sky high , never worked.
Its a demand problem , not a supply problem always has been.
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December 14th, 2010, 08:47 AM #6
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Last night on the national news the issue was "reported" on once again...
And once again the news media showed image after image of full auto weapons (full auto Uzis, AKs and a street sweeper) while talking about how Americans access to powerful military weapons is causing the problem because of "straw" purchasers buying guns for the cartels and shipping them south. The news piece did show some civilian type guns: fancy engraved handguns, a DA revolver being banged apart by a Mexican armorer, but mostly they were cutting up AK type weapons. So were these "American" semi auto AK clones or the full auto military weapons floating around Central America? This part didn't bolster the reporter's new piece, so was left out (or maybe the Mexican gov't deliberately fostered the idea that all the weapons come from the USA instead of elsewhere to a hoodwinked press.) The efforts of ATF were mentioned...and I fully support them in prosecuting people who are buying for the cartels. They at least didn't blame the average US citizen for the problem, just focused on how a few straw purchasers are being used.
And how are these weapons getting across the border? Smuggled in cars and trucks. So where is the Mexican border customs checking for contraband? Guess they are in the fix too, but that was curiously absent from this hard hitting new piece.
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December 14th, 2010, 09:37 AM #7
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As to the bolded portion"
Obviously, because Americans are the only ones who use drugs, correct?
As to the rest:
Its a war on drugs problem. You pointing out how prohibition failed (miserably, and was repealed) is just you giving proof to this.
Just sell the shit to those who want it and the violence will end on its own, just like with the rum runners and speakeasys.
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December 14th, 2010, 09:45 AM #8
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Exactly, and the argument would be then everyone would get high. Whats stopping them now? every one that gets high does so if its illegal or not. Might as well tax it and make some money.
Personally I don't care what another adult does with his or her body, its none of mine or the governments business. I don't like it so I don't do it
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December 14th, 2010, 10:00 AM #9
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I don't like having to deal with the societal repercussions of other people being involved with drugs, but I really don't like the government thinking it's their business and their involvement making the problem worse. If I really thought that the government could wipe out drugs totally and forever I'd find myself having a harder decision between wanting them to do it and them staying within their Constitutional boundaries, but obviously they're doing neither so it's not really a choice.
"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws--that's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
"To my mind it is wholly irresponsible to go into the world incapable of preventing violence, injury, crime, and death. How feeble is the mindset to accept defenselessness. How unnatural. How cheap. How cowardly. How pathetic." -- Ted Nugent
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December 14th, 2010, 10:49 AM #10
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i agree, if we didn't have a drug problem, there won't be this other problem.
"So the cartels can find/steal/buy submarines, planes, speed boats, fast cars, etc buy they need to come to the US to buy their guns? Give me a break. Arms dealers across the world would ship there in an instant for the cartels with cash."
submarines? for what, what does subs, planes, speed boats, fast cars etc have to do with guns? I don't follow you.
I don't kno the numbers, I don't know if its true, but guns being brought illegally happens everyday. I'm sure some ends up in mexico.
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