M-16 blowing up

[Finster]

This is a clip of a M-16 blowing up that I mentioned in another thread. In the description I think they refer to it as a Vietnam era M-16. I have watched this quite a few times and I doubt it is Vietnam era. The forestock does not look correct and I'm not sure if the carry handle was detachable with that era rifle. Lastly, who would shoot it? It would be a nice collector rifle that I would not want to take to the range. Maybe that's just me. Looking at the video closely many times and listening to the comments, I believe that they are shooting reloads and the guy that reloaded the ammo, did not have a clue. I doubt he had a bullet lodged in the barrel but I think the guy didn't trim his brass correctly if at all. The stupid thing here in my opinion is the bunch of misfires before the rifle blows up. I would have stopped after the second misfire and tried to figure it out. These guys just plowed ahead. This guy is luckly to still have fingers or worse. This is the major reason I don't shoot anyones reloads other than my own. I've seen to many guns blow up from careless reloads and/or hot loads.

Here is the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh1ly...7F2D1&index=13

[shortthrow50]

He does not say vietnam era in the description. Surely he names it m-16 becuase of the 20" barrell as most refer to there short barrel ar's as m4's. But yeah, to ad to your other thread. Gunpowder can be destructive and blow up any gun. Not much of a point to be proven as everyone knows this. 16" guns on a battleship have blow up before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalJ9koob2Q

[Rosco the Iroc]

OK
It fails to feed, the bolt won't go in to battery,
SO he clears it with trouble, changes mag.

This happens 2 more times but not once does he check the chamber.
Boom!

*shakes head*

[Pa. Patriot]

Has been posted MANY times here over the last few years.


The gun failed to go into battery, until repeated smashing on the fwd assist (aka: jam or boom assist)

Can you say barrel obstruction? Either squib or case separation.

If the gun will not chamber, forcing the round can, and often will, result in bigger problems including possibly kabooming as happened here.

[streaker69]

I'm rather new to the AR platform, but before I bought mine I watched quite a few videos about them from different people, and the one thing that stuck with me, and I don't remember who said it was "The forward assist is not your friend".

I guess that combined with user headspace pretty much proves that point.

[Finster]

I'm still thinking untrimmed brass here. I may be wrong but look at the video. He ejects shells that do not seat quite a few times. They chamber but don't seat enough to let the hammer drop. This tells me that it's not a casing left in the chamber. It could be a bullet lodged but I doubt it. It fired fine before this mishap. No little squib pop or anything that would leave me to believe a plugged barrel. I'm still thinking badly trimmed brass.

[RaisedByWolves]

Squib.

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[Tomcat088]

I'm still thinking untrimmed brass here. I may be wrong but look at the video. He ejects shells that do not seat quite a few times. They chamber but don't seat enough to let the hammer drop. This tells me that it's not a casing left in the chamber. It could be a bullet lodged but I doubt it. It fired fine before this mishap. No little squib pop or anything that would leave me to believe a plugged barrel. I'm still thinking badly trimmed brass.

This has been posted up here lots of times before with lots more information. It's VERY obvious that this isn't a Vietnam era rifle. The fact that it's flat top should be your first clue without even seeing the hand guard. Your assessment is incorrect, and others in other threads have come forward with more information to verify that. It was a barrel obstruction/squib.

At 0:25 seconds you hear "click", and he ejects the piece of brass. It's hard to tell, especially from the quality of the video, but it looks like it's an empty piece of brass to me. If he was paying attention, he would have noticed that he had a live round laying in the floor with a bunch of empties IF it wasn't a squib. IF he didn't see a live round in the pile, then he would have known that it was a barrel obstruction. The "click" of only a primer going off, can be enough to unseat a bullet and make it start to engage the rifling, and might only sound like a "click". Have you ever heard a suppressed .22, on a bolt action it pretty much just sounds like a "click". That's pretty much exactly how a primer only going off sounds when it's in an enclosed space (cartridge). Later on we hear some more clicks because the rifle isn't going fully into battery, and it's not firing, which is the way it was designed. At 0:35 seconds it's obvious that the charging handle doesn't even go all the way forward, it's almost even with his cheek, when earlier it was right by the tip of his nose. He hits the forward assist twice. Another click and a major flinch at 0:37 because the rifle isn't in battery. Another click at 0:43, only now we keep seeing cartriges ejected with bullets intact. We also see two more hard taps on the forward assist. At 0:56 he inspects the cartridge and sees it has a bullet intact, but it's a little late now. At 0:59 we see 3 more hits on the forward assist. At this point he's hit the forward assist so much, that it's finally gotten the squib round far enough down the bore that the next round will finally fully chamber and go into battery.

There doesn't have to be a loud "pop", in order for it to be a squib. A "click" can be enough to unseat a bullet and get it a little bit into the rifling. The idiot did the rest of the work. He didn't have to work at it too much, otherwise I'd say that there was another possibility. There's always the possibility of bullets being seated too long and a bad primer. When you eject the case, sometimes the bullet will stay in the rifling because it was already "kissing the lands". Either way, that's not the case here and it was a squib. You can say it's improperly trimmed brass all you like, but in other places the whole story has been hashed out.

[Finster]

This has been posted up here lots of times before with lots more information. It's VERY obvious that this isn't a Vietnam era rifle. The fact that it's flat top should be your first clue without even seeing the hand guard. Your assessment is incorrect, and others in other threads have come forward with more information to verify that. It was a barrel obstruction/squib.

At 0:25 seconds you hear "click", and he ejects the piece of brass. It's hard to tell, especially from the quality of the video, but it looks like it's an empty piece of brass to me. If he was paying attention, he would have noticed that he had a live round laying in the floor with a bunch of empties IF it wasn't a squib. IF he didn't see a live round in the pile, then he would have known that it was a barrel obstruction. The "click" of only a primer going off, can be enough to unseat a bullet and make it start to engage the rifling, and might only sound like a "click". Have you ever heard a suppressed .22, on a bolt action it pretty much just sounds like a "click". That's pretty much exactly how a primer only going off sounds when it's in an enclosed space (cartridge). Later on we hear some more clicks because the rifle isn't going fully into battery, and it's not firing, which is the way it was designed. At 0:35 seconds it's obvious that the charging handle doesn't even go all the way forward, it's almost even with his cheek, when earlier it was right by the tip of his nose. He hits the forward assist twice. Another click and a major flinch at 0:37 because the rifle isn't in battery. Another click at 0:43, only now we keep seeing cartriges ejected with bullets intact. We also see two more hard taps on the forward assist. At 0:56 he inspects the cartridge and sees it has a bullet intact, but it's a little late now. At 0:59 we see 3 more hits on the forward assist. At this point he's hit the forward assist so much, that it's finally gotten the squib round far enough down the bore that the next round will finally fully chamber and go into battery.

There doesn't have to be a loud "pop", in order for it to be a squib. A "click" can be enough to unseat a bullet and get it a little bit into the rifling. The idiot did the rest of the work. He didn't have to work at it too much, otherwise I'd say that there was another possibility. There's always the possibility of bullets being seated too long and a bad primer. When you eject the case, sometimes the bullet will stay in the rifling because it was already "kissing the lands". Either way, that's not the case here and it was a squib. You can say it's improperly trimmed brass all you like, but in other places the whole story has been hashed out.

Thanks for clearing all of that up and being such an authority about this clip and Vietnam era rifles.

[Lycanthrope]

Thanks for clearing all of that up and being such an authority about this clip and Vietnam era rifles.

Tomcat is right. It's not.


Lycantruththrope