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November 27th, 2010, 01:13 PM #21
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November 27th, 2010, 01:16 PM #22
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November 27th, 2010, 06:26 PM #23Banned
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Re: "Just a Citizen"
Wrong.
We are indeed their bosses. In fact, we are their bosses's bosses.
So, like a Sergeant Major is a private's boss, so too are we the police officer's boss, since a police officer is at the very bottom of the public servant food chain.
So..............
"Are you a police officer?"
"Why do you ask?" is all that is sufficient.
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November 27th, 2010, 06:54 PM #24Senior Member
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Re: "Just a Citizen"
While I agree with you in theory if we extrapolate it a little further... They're all self-employed since they pay taxes.
Police are paid to enforce laws. The politicians draft and make law. The bulk of the officers out there find it just as easy to let the lawyers and judges sort it out. Telling them that you are their boss during an encounter is a good way to take a huge step towards court. Sure there are knot heads out there but not all of them.
I'll proudly tell anyone I'm an honest, law-abiding citizen but I do like your response.
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November 27th, 2010, 08:16 PM #25Super Member
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Re: "Just a Citizen"
If someone asks the "Are you a policeman?" question, you could always say, "No, I'm a step above that. Policemen are public servants - I'm the public."
Pretty much the same as what was said earlier but it ought to set the questioner back a little...
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November 27th, 2010, 10:16 PM #26
Re: "Just a Citizen"
Last edited by General Geoff; November 27th, 2010 at 10:19 PM.
Any mission, any conditions, any foe at any range.
Twice the mayhem, triple the force.
Ten times the action, total hardcore.
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November 28th, 2010, 12:31 AM #27Grand Member
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Re: "Just a Citizen"
I'm thinking about the police / military convergence that is mostly due to the drug war and other "wars" that both the police and military get involved in, resulting in more cross pollination of the police with military personnel, training and equipment than I am comfortable with. Not that soldiers can't be good cops necessarily, they are just different jobs and I don't like the distinction being blurred.
I think actually we have come back from the edge a bit after Waco, and latterly from the many deaths caused by unnecessary night time raids. Notwithstanding the odd goofball sheriff who decides his office needs a belt-fed .50 cal or some such.
I don't say this to bash cops - I respect the police, all the more so because they are civilians policing civilians. That is something to be celebrated and preserved.
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November 28th, 2010, 01:06 AM #28
Re: "Just a Citizen"
I get a chuckle out of people that say this; it smacks of self-importance. If I don't like what cop, firefighter or politician is doing, I have tools I can use that hold them accountable.
We, the voting public, are not the "boss' of a cop, firefighter or politician. We are responsible for their oversight, their salaries and to some extent, the methods they use to do their jobs. Be we don't employ them, they are employed by a Gov't entity that we put into power. We can no more dictate to them directly than we can call up Muhtar Kent (CEO of Coca-Cola) and demand the return of Original Coke. We can file a complaint against them, we can start an internet campaign decrying their abuses and we can bring political pressure to bear on their supervisors, but they don't work for us. They enforce the laws we as a voting public tell them to.
Don't like how they are doing their job? Get all your friends to write letters and vote those responsible out of office.
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November 28th, 2010, 11:08 AM #29
Re: "Just a Citizen"
We can file a complaint against them, we can start an internet campaign decrying their abuses and we can bring political pressure to bear on their supervisors, but they don't work for us.Any mission, any conditions, any foe at any range.
Twice the mayhem, triple the force.
Ten times the action, total hardcore.
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November 28th, 2010, 01:46 PM #30
Re: "Just a Citizen"
Because they serve the community, not you.
By some people trying to insist they are their "employers" is nonsense. As I said before, you are not their employer. If you were, then that would mean you are somehow in charge or can direct them in their day to day work.
Again, you are NOT an employer. The city, town, borough, etc is the employer. You are not in my chain of command. You do not give me orders. You are not someone I go to looking for guidance or instruction, etc.
You are NOT the employer of police, fire, EMS, refuse collectors, mayor, council, secretary, etc........or any one else that works for a municipality.
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