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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by XACEX View Post
    NO IT WASNT. THAT WAS A DIFFERENT UNRELATED BILL
    OK, I'll edit my original post to remove confusion.... thanks!

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by 64Jeeper View Post
    FROM FACEBOOK!!!!!!

    64JEEPER:: IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!! Thank You Rep Groves!!!!!

    Now what's the read on Rendell? Will we get a signature, or a veto?

    State Representative Seth Grove, 196th- York County PA:: From my understanding a line item veto. He signs the bill but line item veto's Castle Doctrine
    This would make me just puke!!

    What recourse do we have in that event? Aside form starting over next year.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK2JYfZAmA When will America become America?

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by 64Jeeper View Post
    State Representative Seth Grove, 196th- York County PA:: From my understanding a line item veto. He signs the bill but line item veto's Castle Doctrine
    My understanding of the line item veto is that it can only be used on appropriations bills to cut spending items. I'll look up the provision and post when I have it.

    ETA: From Article IV of the PA State Constitution:

    Approval of Bills; Vetoes
    Section 15.
    Every bill which shall have passed both Houses shall be presented to the Governor; if he approves he shall sign it, but if he shall not approve he shall return it with his objections to the House in which it shall have originated, which House shall enter the objections at large upon their journal, and proceed to re-consider it. If after such re-consideration, two-thirds of all the members elected to that House shall agree to pass the bill, it shall be sent with the objections to the other House by which likewise it shall be re-considered, and if approved by two-thirds of all the members elected to that House it shall be a law; but in such cases the votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and nays, and the names of the members voting for and against the bill shall be entered on the journals of each House, respectively. If any bill shall not be returned by the Governor within ten days after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law in like manner as if he had signed it, unless the General Assembly, by their adjournment, prevent its return, in which case it shall be a law, unless he shall file the same, with his objections, in the office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth, and give notice thereof by public proclamation within thirty days after such adjournment.

    Partial Disapproval of Appropriation Bills
    Section 16.
    The Governor shall have power to disapprove of any item of any bill, making appropriations of money, embracing distinct items, and the part or parts of the bill approved shall be the law, and the item or items of appropriation disapproved shall be void, unless re-passed according to the rules and limitations prescribed for the passage of other bills over the Executive veto.
    Last edited by FNG19; November 15th, 2010 at 09:20 PM.

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    EXPLANATION OF VETO POTENTIAL:


    1. He signs it > its law

    2. He doesent sign it > 10 session days pass > its law

    3. He doesnt sign it > session ends > 30 days pass > its law

    4. He vetos it > session is out of time to override > it is dead



    *HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LINE-ITEM-VETO THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. HE CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH FISCAL LEGISLATION




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    Last edited by XACEX; November 15th, 2010 at 09:01 PM.

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    If session times out or he pocket vetos it, can it be re-introduced at a later time?
    Rules are written in the stone,
    Break the rules and you get no bones,
    all you get is ridicule, laughter,
    and a trip to the house of pain.

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by XACEX View Post
    EXPLANATION OF VETO POTENTIAL:


    1. He signs it > its law

    2. He doesent sign it > 10 session days pass > its law

    3. He doesnt sign it > session ends > "pocket veto" > its dead

    4. He vetos it > session is out of time to override > it is dead



    *HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LINE-ITEM-VETO THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. HE CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH FISCAL LEGISLATION


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    Thank you for a very clear post!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK2JYfZAmA When will America become America?

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    from facebook:
    State Representative Seth Grove, 196th- York County PA From what I have heard - he will line item veto Castle Doctrine. I highly suggest you call the Gov's office express your support.

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by XACEX View Post
    EXPLANATION OF VETO POTENTIAL:


    1. He signs it > its law

    2. He doesent sign it > 10 session days pass > its law

    3. He doesnt sign it > session ends > "pocket veto" > its dead

    4. He vetos it > session is out of time to override > it is dead



    *HE DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LINE-ITEM-VETO THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. HE CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH FISCAL LEGISLATION

    *THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR #2 TO OCCUR



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    thanks for telling us what it is
    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
    OC.......do it for the boobies........

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    anybody got Ed Rendell's number, or how about his cell number? Call him direct, not some yahoo that's gonna blow us off!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: ~HB 1926 FINAL PUSH FOR RENDELL'S SIGNATURE!!!~

    Quote Originally Posted by 64Jeeper View Post
    anybody got Ed Rendell's number, or how about his cell number? Call him direct, not some yahoo that's gonna blow us off!!!!!!!
    I wish. I don't think anyone knows a direct number.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanthrope View Post
    OC.......do it for the boobies........

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