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November 13th, 2007, 09:57 AM #1
Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
No flames please, just an honest question. Has anyone verified the story by gnbrotz? I would be pleased to contribute to his legal defense if true.
Veritas Vos Liberat
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November 13th, 2007, 10:07 AM #2
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
From what I understnad, there are a few people in his area who actually know him, second, there is a print out of the letter he got from the sheriff's office on the board.
Third, I dont think any one would be stoopid enough to cum and grab cash from 1000+ active Pennsylvania members who also happen to own GUNS!
Then again, could happen.
Sheriff's 1st letter to Greg: http://www.gnbrotz.com/images/sheriffletter.jpg
You would be more interested in this one
Sheriff's 2d letter to Greg: http://www.gnbrotz.com/images/revocation.jpgSkeet is a sport where you are better to hit half of each bird then completely blast one and miss the other completely.
The choice is yours, place your faith in the court system and 12 of your peers, or carried away by 6 friends.
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit. 'Nobody provokes me with impunity'
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
In this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
Clint Eastwood
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
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November 13th, 2007, 10:34 AM #3
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
Whatever you think the story might or might not be (and critical thinking is always important), the truly distubing fact is that the Sheriff has admitted in his letter that he revoked the license not for any illegal conduct, but for "apparently" illegal conduct. The question has to be: "apparent" to whom?
Do you want your constitutional rights, which our forefathers shed blood to secure for us, to hinge on what some Sheriff somewhere does or doesn't believe is "apparent"?
If someone is convicted of a serious crime, sure they're a criminal; take their guns.
On the other hand, if any Sheriff just feels like taking your license because in his personal and individual say so, you've done something he personally doesn't like, he should be viewed as having committed a federal and state crime (civil rights violation under color of law) and should be fired and prosecuted.
If the Sheriff had something real, it would have been in his letter. Instead he's got a huge stinking pile of BS and he's the one who should be stewing in it, not a law abiding citizen of the Commonwealth.
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November 13th, 2007, 10:55 AM #4
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
after gnbrotz wins. it might be a good educational note for a story to be in the paper, or somewhere.
Last edited by normanvin; November 13th, 2007 at 10:56 AM. Reason: rethought what i wanted to say.
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November 13th, 2007, 11:15 AM #5
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
So you believe everything you read in the newspaper as true?
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November 13th, 2007, 11:19 AM #6
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
A newspaper article would be a way to verify the incident happened, probably not the facts. Please understand all, I wish to "trust but verify", especially when a thing like this evokes such a strong response.
Veritas Vos Liberat
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November 13th, 2007, 11:35 AM #7
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
Skeet is a sport where you are better to hit half of each bird then completely blast one and miss the other completely.
The choice is yours, place your faith in the court system and 12 of your peers, or carried away by 6 friends.
Nemo Me Impune Lacessit. 'Nobody provokes me with impunity'
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
In this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.
Clint Eastwood
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
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November 13th, 2007, 01:39 PM #8
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
In today's world asking for verification is a very smart thing to do. I have seen scams on many different forums. It's very easy to get caught up in a situation with a lot of emotion.
That being said the letters posted here are evidence enough for me.
If that's not enough call the sheriff and see what he says. A "no comment" from him would be ample verification for me.
I'm behind you 100% gnbrotz!"Having a gun and thinking you are armed is like having a piano and thinking you are a musician" Col. Jeff Cooper (U.S.M.C. Ret.)
Speed is fine, Accuracy is final
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November 13th, 2007, 02:42 PM #9
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
I think "last man out" was looking for
What kind of { involvement} and what was the "apparent illegal manner"
"the reason for the Revocation is your involvement in which a gun was used by you in an apparent illegal manner"
And it would be best to here it from the sheriff
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November 13th, 2007, 04:38 PM #10
Re: Has gnbrotz story made the newspaper?
I would believe it less if I read it in any of the papers around here.
I think a good time for the public to learn about this would be when the Sheriff resigns
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