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Thread: How many centerfire duds?
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September 4th, 2010, 01:57 AM #1
How many centerfire duds?
I can only remember ever having one centerfire dud. A round of 9mm Remington UMC, which is sitting on my loading bench so that some day I get around to breaking it down for components. I've had lots of bulk .22LR duds, but just the one centerfire round.
I've documented about 6000 rounds of factory 9mm, add another 1000 of UMC .45ACP, 500 Miwall Reloads, and 100 Federal HST, 1250 rounds of LC and Q3131A 5.56mm and some Winchester value pack .223 and some Centurion. Probably half a dozen 30 round mags full of surplus 7.62x39mm, and about 300 rounds of 5.45x39. Before all that, a few thousand rounds of mixed pistol ammo while I was renting guns and shooting Dad's. Reloads - 11,150 9mm, 930 .45ACP, 450 .223, 50 .308.
So yeah, a lot of money turned into noise and smoke.
Just curious about the experiences of others.Last edited by Suburban; September 4th, 2010 at 02:09 PM.
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September 4th, 2010, 02:29 AM #3
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No center fire duds yet; knock on wood. Have had 22lr duds, remington thunderbolts mostly but none with CCI ammo.
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September 4th, 2010, 09:33 AM #4
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Only had one and it happened last year - .25 Auto Federal Classic
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September 4th, 2010, 10:09 AM #5
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Re: How many centerfire duds?
None that I can remember.
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Re: How many centerfire duds?
Since 1964, when I began shooting in earnest, I have never had a dud of any kind in modern UNITED STATES military or commercial centerfire ammunition. (Like the rest of you, 22RF is another matter entirely). I've still got a few boxes of mil-surp 30-06 from 1927 that is fundamentally as accurate and reliable as anything current - corrosive-primed, to be sure, but relaible and CONSISTENTLY ACCURATE
Though I have had some foreign commercial and foreign surplus "duds", but in many thousands of rounds, maybe a handful at most. (Well, there was that batch of Pakistani 303-Brit that I knew going in was 50-50, because it had been underwater for a few weeks ).
Handloaded and rimfire are excepted from any generalizations. There is always an opportunity for mystery there. And I guess that I have had more 22LR misfires in the last ten years than in all the time before, and it seems like Remington was a higher percentage of those. I probably shoot more Remington than any other brand. I can't ever recall a misfire in 22MAG in any brand.
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Re: How many centerfire duds?
I have only had problem with Wolf 7.62X39.
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September 4th, 2010, 02:22 PM #9
Re: How many centerfire duds?
I've had a few can't say how many. Funny thing is a guy on my firring point this year had 2 duds in 20rds with some MK262 Mod 1. It cost him on the 300yr rapid.
Most duds I've had was some '41 .303 most of the cases looked like heck. I pulled a couple apart and it even had the old stick powder. They lit like a candle with a lighter. I had 15 out of bandoleer fail. The store took them back and gave me 2nd one that was about as bad. That whole wait 30sec after pulling the trigger and keep muzzle down range- was no crap I kept the rifle up for 20sec, lowered it and help firm for 30sec more then BANG! I've seen wet pan black powder go faster.Owner Trigger Time LLc 01 FFL/NFA Saylorsburg, PA. Sales/Service/Transfers/Training
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September 4th, 2010, 02:37 PM #10
Re: How many centerfire duds?
I think I saw one in 9mm a few months ago. But it wasn't my ammo and I didn't examine it that closely.
I've shot hundreds of thousands of rounds (guess) since the eighties and, I don't remember at least, seeing another one. I've seen plenty of .22 rf. And once a 9mm rf (yes) hangfire. I think I might have seen a couple centerfire hangfires over the decades, but never in my guns. I'm really not sure.
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