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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by chaz-heston-4-prez View Post
    no hidden agends at all!! last post and i have to go to work...

    MULLEN is a cop, he is not a politician, he is new to this BUT is very accessible, we can work with him!

    as a law enforcement officer, he deals EVERY DAY with people who use firearms for the wrong purposes, he (and many officers) may have become brainwashed to associate firearms with negativity...
    You make it clear that you think Kress doesn't have a shot, but I really think he does, I think enough people see Acting Sheriff Mullen for what he is, a hypocrite, he carries a firearm but is "brainwashed to associate firearms with negativity" I think I would rather have the guy in office that never carried and has no intention to carry than someone who DOES carry but thinks it's his personal duty to make it harder for other law abiding citizens to do so.

    In his time as acting sheriff he has had plenty of time to show the legal firearms owners that he was pro-firearms, instead he has made it take longer to get a LTCF, he closed the firearms office on Saturdays making it harder to get down there in town during the week to get one. He wants my vote? He's had plenty of time to show what he is made of, and unfortunatly for him he is show that he cannot be trusted to oversee our 2nd amendment rights in Allegheny County.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by chaz-heston-4-prez View Post

    MULLEN is a cop, he is not a politician, he is new to this BUT is very accessible, we can work with him!
    Why should I have to work with him to restore my rights that he is impeding?

    he (and many officers) may have become brainwashed to associate firearms with negativity
    Why should I vote for someone who is so easily swayed by the Antis?


    ...we cannot elect (even though kress doesn't have a shot) someone who tells us what we want to hear!!
    I cannot elect someone who tells us that he will make it more difficult to own a firearm

    defazio gave out permits in 15 minutes---it was a different and corrupt organization then---if enough of us work with MULLEN, we as a people, can make changes...
    I am not about to defend Defazio, but why did Mullen make it more difficult for citizens to legally obtain permits? And again, I should not have to work with someone to liberate my rights, those in office should be working for ME.

    hell, even ask him to tell you about some of old "war stories" (shootings, fights, getting shot at, making undercover drug buys, shooting someone through a 2nd story window)
    While these are admirable things, they do not equate to a good elected official. this is not a valid argument concerning his disinterest in my rights.

    Chaz, I await your reply.
    Sec. 21. The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

    Sec. 25. To guard against transgressions of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that everything in this article is excepted out of the general powers of government and shall forever remain inviolate.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Why should I have to work with him to restore my rights that he is impeding?

    Why should I vote for someone who is so easily swayed by the Antis?

    I cannot elect someone who tells us that he will make it more difficult to own a firearm

    I am not about to defend Defazio, but why did Mullen make it more difficult for citizens to legally obtain permits? And again, I should not have to work with someone to liberate my rights, those in office should be working for ME.

    While these are admirable things, they do not equate to a good elected official. this is not a valid argument concerning his disinterest in my rights.

    Chaz, I await your reply.
    Yeah I gotta figure Chaz is either a friend of Bill, Bill, or a campaign worker, either way I welcome the opportunity to hear more about how Sheriff Mullen will differ from what ACTING Sheriff Mullen has done.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    I wonder about what motivates people to join a forum and immediatly start pushing for some politician or agenda in thier first posts. Before anyone knows them, or they have built any repor with the group. Politicians hire people to do this sort of thing.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by chaz-heston-4-prez View Post
    wake up people! why would we ever endorse kress?? let's start out with the most basic fact....kress has never carried a firearm, does not carry a firearm, and will never carry a firearm!!...he has said so himself!!
    Source this is drop it. Where has he said this, when and to whom?


    he is just another lying politician!!
    They all lie, Mullen is not different. The minute he stopped being a cop and became part of a political office, he became a politician. John McCain is no longer a soldier, Mullen isn't a cop. Besides that, being a cop alone doesn't automatically give one a whole ton of credibility around here on any subject.

    Mullen supports assault weapons bans.
    Mullen has made it harder to get a LTCF in his county.
    Mullen has gone on record stating that he wants to make it harder to get a gun in Pennsylvania.

    None of that makes him a friend to gun owners.


    how can we elect a sheriff who will not/is not licensed to carry a firearm!!
    Because this ain't dodge city, the modern Sheriff's office is far removed from the general law enforcement role it once played in this country. As an attorney, Kress is likely more aware of the law than Mullen, sadly most cops don't know a whole lot about the law.

    plus, he still lives at home with his mother!!!
    Really? Where did you hear/see that?


    MULLEN is not a politician...he is a mans-man...a cops-cop...take a trip to the courthouse, ask MULLEN if he is carrying a firearm at that moment, i'll bet my house he is (glock 9mm)...he ALWAYS DOES....does anyone out there know how many gun battles MULLEN was in in his career?? numerous!! he was protecting himself, the citizens, and his fellow law enforcement officers...does anyone else know that MULLEN has also shot/wounded numerous people defending himself and his fellow officers?? ask him, he has some wild stories!! i found him easily approachable and more than willing to talk about his career when i went to the courthouse last month...his career is very-very impressive...MULLEN made undercover drug buys, arrested scum bag gang bangers, was the head of homicide for numerous years, was the deputy chief, etc etc... he even had the unfortunate instance of having his partner killed as they busted down a door to arrest a murderer...MULLEN is not a politician, he is a cop and only a cop...he was brought in because of his "...impeccable record.." (post gazette)...he has been endorsed by 31 out of 34 groups...
    None of this makes him a friend to gun owners. And his actions while he's been in office thus far certainly haven't endeared him to us one bit.

    he also (as stated incorrectly in this thread) IS NOT FOR APPOINTMENT OF THE SHERIFF...he wants to let the voters decide...if someone questions me, i'll provide multiple sources...[/B]

    Please do.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by buckmulligan23 View Post
    I wonder about what motivates people to join a forum and immediatly start pushing for some politician or agenda in thier first posts. Before anyone knows them, or they have built any repor with the group. Politicians hire people to do this sort of thing.
    If Mullen hired someone that types like this guy, well, damn, that's really something.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Someone may be seeing internal polls in the county and not liking the results.

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Mullen thinks it's O.K. for him to carry a gun but you shouldn't. He has done everything he can to make it as hard as possible to get or renew your LTCF.

    No freaking way I'm voting for that (Censored)!
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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    chaz...

    does mullen respect rule of law? is he willing to abide by the limits placed on his authority by the constitution and laws?

    it seems he does not...and this is why i won't vote for him.

    mullen says that it is illegal to carry in airports. in reality, of course, it is only illegal to carry in secured parts of airports.

    mullen seems to think that the the county ordinance against carrying in airports trumps the pre-emption clause in the PA UFA. it, of course, does not. the pre-emption clause renders the allegheny county ordinance null and void.

    in PA, only the state (or the feds, of course) have the power to make it illegal to carry in airports. the state has not done so, and the feds have only made it illegal to carry in secured parts of airports.

    thus, it is, regardless of what mullen or any county ordinance says, legal to carry in non-secured areas of airports in PA...including airports in allegheny county.

    why does mullen think he can go beyond the law in restricting carry? do we want a sheriff who apparently doesn't really believe in rule of law?

    i won't even get into his apparent support for an AWB...

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    Default Re: ALLEGHENY COUNTY-SHERIFF BILL MULLEN

    Quote Originally Posted by chaz-heston-4-prez View Post
    Frenchy,
    i'll vote for the guy who not only carries a firearm every day, BUT USES IT!!!!
    Using a firearm is not a qualification! I'm pretty sure most of us hope we NEVER have to fire our CCW weapon.

    I'd say Mullen is hiring 12 year old mall ninjas to do his PR. PS...It appears your capslock key is jammed.

    I wonder if this (the immature rambling posts) could possibly get out to the papers so the public can see what kind of campaign mullen is running.

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