Question Duck and Turkey Loads for self defense?

[jcabin]

So absolutely No Bird Shot no matter how powerful is recommend for HD or SD the Duck shot and Turkey load leaves a big hole in 1/4" plywood.
Dbl odd buck does it better but not much.

The slug is the best penetratetor in Shot Gun but I like multiple hits with one trigger pull.

You have to consider getting hit with a 450 to 550 grain slug at 1800fps with 2500ft lb of muzzle energy is going to completely destroy anything it contacts. The effects of being hit center of mass with a single slug is will -almost- garauntee your attacker will stop. It's something like 85-95% effective at stopping your attacker with a single shot.

[Former_Marine99]

So absolutely No Bird Shot no matter how powerful is recommend for HD or SD the Duck shot and Turkey load leaves a big hole in 1/4" plywood.
Dbl odd buck does it better but not much.

The slug is the best penetratetor in Shot Gun but I like multiple hits with one trigger pull.

What you like, and what works best can be completely different things.

What would you say is better, one big hole that penetrates to vital organs regardless of angle of impact, at all ranges inside the home, or several dozen very small holes that wont likely penetrate to vital organs from any angle of impact?

It is not hard to make a big hole in a quarter inch of plywood. My .410 using birdshot can do hat at 20 feet. But that does not mean that I think it would be a viable home defense gun.

[Neko456]

That is no debate the Slug will do the job no doubt about it.

But I like dbl odd buck or triple odd buck or Duck/Turkey load alternating with odd buck. I like multiple hits with one trigger pull, for HD.

Your argument is well received that the Slug is the most powerful round out of a Shotgun. I'm not against Slugs I just prefer Dbl Odd buck.

And really 410 dbl odd huck or slug would be a potent HD Shotgun if that was all you had. IMHO.

[Former_Marine99]

I don't think that you are following my argument.

[Al LaVodka]

A picture speaks a thousand words that even the people who just keep regurgitating "00 Buck" and "Buckshot" and "Birdshot is for da birds" nonsense can understand it. Well, maybe, I hope...
Al

[knight0334]

Not to be a spelling Nazi, but it is not "odd".. It is "aught".

"aught" means "zero", ...the number "0".

Examples:
Double aught buck = 00 buck
triple aught buck = 000 buck
.30-aught 6 = .30-06

[jcabin]

A picture speaks a thousand words that even the people who just keep regurgitating "00 Buck" and "Buckshot" and "Birdshot is for da birds" nonsense can understand it. Well, maybe, I hope...
Al

What are we understanding? You just showed a picture of some type of shot in ballistic gel. I guess explanations are for "da birds".

[Former_Marine99]

A picture speaks a thousand words that even the people who just keep regurgitating "00 Buck" and "Buckshot" and "Birdshot is for da birds" nonsense can understand it. Well, maybe, I hope...
Al

If I am not mistaken, that test was done by shotgunandtactical, I believe it was the site I originally mentioned not being able to find in my first post in my thread. If memory serves that is number 4 buck.

[32 Magnum]

It's BB shot (.17 cal)

[RaisedByWolves]

I hate discussing bird shot.

Its good for checking function and 3 gun shoots, other than that I aught to use Buck shot.

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