Are PRE 1927 hex recievered Mosin Nagants any more valuable?

**Zet70** · August 6th, 2010, 08:12 PM

I'm thinking about picking up my first MN tomorrow and the local shop has a beautiful 1924 stamped 91/30 all numbers matching. I did a little research and it seems as though before 1927 there is very little information on production numbers and arsenal markings. I realize the hex reciever was phased out in 1937 and can find a wealth of info on all models from 27-37, But does a beautiful hexed 24 warrant my VISA asap?

Thanks guys!

**PA Rifleman** · August 6th, 2010, 09:14 PM

Not in my opinion, unless it's a pre-1899 dated receiver (read: same category as black powder guns). It's just the older model, like the split-bridge receiver and the protruding magazine design. All of these features are throwbacks to the first generation repeating bolt action rifles in the 1880-1890 time period. The German Mauser 71/84 has the same bolt design, the Mauser model 88 has nearly identical architecture as the Mosin, with a few minor changes. The 88 had a barrel jacket, the Mosin has a cartridge interrupter (spring loaded retracting magazine lip). Big deal.

Picture yourself buying a car...the salesman says for a "paltry" fee they'll add a carburetor and points, classy stuff for sure. Who wants complicated fuel injection anyway, right?

And, it's less "hex" and more like half-octagonal. The Mosin peddlers have been whipping up the "hex" craze for some time, but the collectors don't seem to be willing to pay a premium for the old receiver.

When I see ads attempting to whip up frenzy over "hex" receivers and other moot details, I generally don't buy from those sellers. They're more concerned about a fast sale and less concerned about the quality of the product.

**Grizz2720** · August 7th, 2010, 12:10 AM

Check out www.aimsurplus.com. They have the hex receiver Mosins for $89.95. I bought a hex receiver from Aim about a month ago. I was looking for a Tula and got a nice one from them. I was at a gun show in Waukesha Wisconsin this afternoon. The mosin prices were all over the park. ranging from $80.00 to $225.00.

**Coils** · August 7th, 2010, 06:44 PM

If the rear sight looks like this, it's most likely a (arsenal) converted Dragoon
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/0002.jpg

**7998** · August 7th, 2010, 08:32 PM

Don't buy a Mosin if your looking for a collector. Sure there is Snipers, pre-1899, etc. but they made 30+million Mosin-nagants.
Buy a Mosin you like, buy one from every year. I have a 1931 Hex the first year after the Dragoon's. It's worth just as much as a 1945 roundie thats couter bored.

**kunsunoke** · August 8th, 2010, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Zet70

I'm thinking about picking up my first MN tomorrow and the local shop has a beautiful 1924 stamped 91/30 all numbers matching. I did a little research and it seems as though before 1927 there is very little information on production numbers and arsenal markings. I realize the hex reciever was phased out in 1937 and can find a wealth of info on all models from 27-37, But does a beautiful hexed 24 warrant my VISA asap?

Thanks guys!

Whether it's worth whipping out the Visa depends on price, barrel condition, presence or absence of counter-boring, type rarity, markings, and whether all the parts are matched.

This rifle sounds like an arsenal refurb, which detracts from its collectability. Should make a decent shooter, though, assuming the bore's in excellent condition and that you know how to reload for Mosin-Nagants.

However, had the rifle been in original condition (unfired or otherwise) collectability would be much greater.

A 1924 91/30 may have dragoon style markings, making it slightly less common than the usual 91/30 with the simplified Tula/Ishevsk star/triangle stamp. The key word there was "slightly" - because as 7998 has just stated, there were literally millions of these things manufactured for Rodina.

Classic Arms has examples of dragoon-era 91/30s for around $120-150, depending on where the guns were produced.

**Markopoloround** · August 10th, 2010, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Zet70

I'm thinking about picking up my first MN tomorrow and the local shop has a beautiful 1924 stamped 91/30 all numbers matching. I did a little research and it seems as though before 1927 there is very little information on production numbers and arsenal markings. I realize the hex reciever was phased out in 1937 and can find a wealth of info on all models from 27-37, But does a beautiful hexed 24 warrant my VISA asap?

Thanks guys!

Mosin-Nagants are a think of beauty, round receiver ones are a tad cheaper, in general at any reputable store expect to pay less than $150 for one, hex receiver ones are a little older, add another $30 to $ 50 bucks.
For a sniper regardless of the receiver expect to shell out about $ 500.00, most rifles and carbines come with a straight handle bolt, the conversion costs about $70 using your bolt
What is the real difference between a sniper barrel and a regular rifle? None really, the best pieces where separated for sniper use.

PA Rifleman is right really though, hex receivers are not a big investment as antiques, there are so many of them, even thought I have several of both ( yes they are that affordable) there is not really a difference other than the fact that the older ones are just that, older.

Mine sports night sights from glow-on.com

The range where we go is very dark, so this helps