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June 10th, 2010, 06:41 PM #1
Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Yes I know, it says ammunition and components and materials lawfuly used in shooting sports, hunting, handloading and reloading of ammunition, but let's watch this just in case someone decides to make a couple minor changes. Especially since some of the names in the co-sponsors list are inveterate anti-gunners.
PRINTER'S NO. 3891
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA
HOUSE BILL No. 2570 Session of 2010
INTRODUCED BY STERN, PHILLIPS, READSHAW, VULAKOVICH, BOYD, GEIST, GILLESPIE, GINGRICH, HARHART, HENNESSEY, KAUFFMAN, KNOWLES, MURT, SCAVELLO, SONNEY, SWANGER, THOMAS, WATSON AND YOUNGBLOOD,
JUNE 10, 2010
REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY, JUNE 10, 2010
AN ACT
1 Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
2 Consolidated Statutes, providing for possession of explosive
3 components.
4 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
5 hereby enacts as follows:
6 Section 1. Title 18 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated
7 Statutes is amended by adding a section to read:
8 § 2715.1. Possession of explosive components.
9 (a) General rule.--Notwithstanding any other provision of
10 law, any person who, without lawful authority, intentionally,
11 knowingly or recklessly possesses explosive or incendiary
12 components commits a felony of the third degree.
13 (b) Definitions.--The following words and phrases when used
14 in this section shall have the meanings given to them in this
15 subsection unless the context clearly indicates otherwise:
16 "Explosive or incendiary component." A substance or material
17 or combination thereof which has been prepared or altered for
1 use in the creation of a weapon of mass destruction, including,
2 but not limited to, the following:
3 (1) A timing device, clock or watch altered in such a
4 manner as to be used as the arming or initiation component of
5 any weapon of mass destruction.
6 (2) A pipe, end cap or metal tubing prepared for use as
7 any weapon of mass destruction.
8 (3) Any method of mechanical, chemical, electrical or
9 commercial timer, trigger or delay or commercially made or
10 improvised items which, when used singly or in combination,
11 may be used in the construction of a timing, delay or
12 activating mechanism or booby trap for any weapon of mass
13 destruction.
14 The term does not include ammunition for lawful use in a
15 firearm, as defined in section 6105(i) (relating to persons not
16 to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer
17 firearms) or any and all materials or components lawfully used
18 in shooting sports, hunting, handloading or reloading of
19 ammunition.
20 "Weapon of mass destruction." A bomb, biological agent,
21 chemical agent or nuclear agent.
22 Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days.
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June 10th, 2010, 06:50 PM #2
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Another utterly useless bill, and exactly what is a "chemical agent" supposed to mean?
If every "chemical agent" is now classified as a WMD, well then am I now a terrorist for having studied chemistry?
This is a seriously pointless piece of legislation.
I guess fireworks are supposed to be consider WMDs too by this logic.
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June 10th, 2010, 06:53 PM #3
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
wtf now they fling this wmd term around like its nothin.
Gott mit uns
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June 10th, 2010, 08:31 PM #4Senior Member
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Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Think of the children! If we don't pass this law then people will build bombs and become chemists. We can't let that happen. Do you really want your child to grow up to be a chemist?
Seriously though, wtf is with this? Sounds to me that it has almost infinitely more potential to be abused than it does to stop someone from making a weapon of mass destruction. I'm pretty sure terrorist groups don't spend much time ensuring they're operating within federal, state, and local laws when dealing with this stuff.
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June 11th, 2010, 10:29 PM #5
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Let's outlaw The Works toilet cleaner and tinfoil while we're at it.
I'm pretty sure that , depending on how much chili I eat, my ass could be outlawed by that piece of tripe (for god's sake, whatever you do, no open flames behind the fat guy!)"...a REPUBLIC, if you can keep it."
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June 11th, 2010, 10:58 PM #6
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
These jackasses have to be kidding.
8 (3) Any method of mechanical, chemical, electrical or
9 commercial timer, trigger or delay or commercially made or
10 improvised items which, when used singly or in combination,
11 may be used in the construction of a timing, delay or
12 activating mechanism or booby trap for any weapon of mass
13 destruction.
Anybody with a programmable thermostat in you house? You know the type being promoted to save you money and the country energy; You'll be a felon too.
Does anybody in the legislature even think about the implications of their legislation before they introduce it?
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Keep perspective, recognize the good in your enemies and the bad in your friends.
"--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein, Revolt in 2100
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June 11th, 2010, 11:31 PM #7
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
I have heat lamps for reptiles on a timer. Does that make me a criminal now?
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June 11th, 2010, 11:52 PM #8
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Keep perspective, recognize the good in your enemies and the bad in your friends.
"--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein, Revolt in 2100
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June 11th, 2010, 11:59 PM #9
Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
Keep perspective, recognize the good in your enemies and the bad in your friends.
"--you can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." - Robert A. Heinlein, Revolt in 2100
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June 12th, 2010, 08:36 PM #10Member
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Re: Here's another to watch out for: HB 2570
How about tannerite ?
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