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    Default Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    I am planning to buy my first full sized safe today, found what I think is a good deal, used of course, but listed as in very good condition and would really appreciate any advice from any of the wise forum elders here on PAFOA. I think its a good safe, anything I should be on the look out for? I know to look at the bolts, pry marks, keys and info to change combo, anything else? Thanks in advance.

    This is what I am looking at. Amsec 5924 Gun Safe
    # 1/4" door and 12 Gauge body.
    # The quality packed, affordably priced 5924W offers an unbeatable value.
    # Rich velour back cover and fire walls with durable American Oak wood finish interior.
    # Elegant scrollwork and pinstripes accompanied by the renowned American Security Logo.
    # Black Textured finish.
    # Brass spy-proof dial with decorative brass "L" handle.
    # Sleek style is designed to fit into a closet.
    # Mercury Class I fire at 1200°F, for a period of 45 minutes.
    # Designed to maintain an interior temperature of less than 350°F.
    # PalusolTM door seal expands up to 8 times its original thickness when exposed to high temperatures sealing safe contents from harm.
    # High strength unitized 12 ga. body and 1/4" thick solid steel door.
    # Defense barrier of 5 active 11/4" diameter chrome-plated steel locking bolts, with 4 deadbolts.
    # Equipped with a 3 wheel combination lock (U.L. Listed Group II combination or electronic lock available).
    # 3-way boltwork with drill resistant hard plate.
    # 4 pre-cut anchor holes and 1 precut electrical access hole
    # 59H x 24W x 18D
    # Weight: 375 lbs


    http://www.safesetc.com/1836.html

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    The only advice I will offer at this point is to buy bigger then you need.

    This is what my smaller safe has. I paid less for it, then the one you have shown.

    * 11 Locking Bolts (1" in Diameter)
    * 12 Gauge Solid Steel Body
    * 20 Gun Capacity
    * 3 in 1 Flex Interior
    * 45 Minute Manufacturer's Fire Rating
    troll Free. It's all in your mind.

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    Go bigger if you got the space and you can afford it. Future proof your safe.

    Also, a dedicated person with one of those big demolition hammers can get into just about any of those safes in approximately 10 minutes.

    There was a thread about this on this forum a few years ago.
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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyRider View Post
    would really appreciate any advice
    Either ask about free delivery and installation or have couple of tough guys to help you.

    Also, Lowes/Home Depot is worth checking too while you are shopping.

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    I agree about the buying bigger. I was surprised how much I used in mine.
    I got mine out of the bargain cave at cabalas. I took it home in the back of the minivan with the seats out.
    I got a great deal on it. Was selling for 2k and I got it with some minor scratches for $1300.

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I am already planning to buy bigger then I need, I know this is a habit.

    Like I said, I found that safe used for what I think is a good price so I am going to do it. I hope it fits in the wagon and that the three of us can lift it. I will let you all know how it goes.

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    The one you described isn't bad. However, I would agree that it would be a good idea to go bigger than you think you need at the moment. I went for the biggest bolts and highest fire rating I could. My safes will go 1 1/2 hours or better in a 1500 degree fire and keep the interior under the temperature to char paper (I think 344 degrees F). Plus it's a good place to store documents, photo albums. coin collections, jewelry etc. (help you justify it to the rest of the household).

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    Going bigger isn't a bad idea but you should also do some research before you purchase. I was in the market for a safe about a year ago and once I did some research I decided to wait and get something that was actually "safe". Of course you looking at over $2K, but think how much you have invested in your guns? Try looking at http://www.sturdysafe.com/minuteman.htm. From my research they seem to be in the top tier of safe makers.
    Jeo556

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    Default Re: Buying my first real safe (Advice Needed)

    Go as big and as American made as you can afford. I went with a Liberty 48 gun and its almost full already.

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