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    Default Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    A friend of mine posted a picture of this rifle on Facebook. Someone chimed in saying that the buttstock makes it illegal as a short barrel rifle. I don't know the rules but it sounds wrong to me. Can anyone tell me if they are right or wrong and why?


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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    It's not a stock - it's a F#@%ING ARM BRACE.

    THAT IS NOT A RIFLE. It is a PISTOL.

    Here are three of mine.
    The bottom one is a pistol. It has a PISTOL buffer tube - a STOCK will NOT fit on it - different diameter tube - for a REASON.
    That is a Shockwave "Blade" arm brace - it is NOT a stock.


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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    It's not illegal, because that's not a buttstock, and that gun is a handgun and not a rifle. It's a stabilizing brace. Do not put a real stock on it unless you jump through the right hoops.

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Shockwave Blade Pistol Stabilizer

    http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1970

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    That looks like a KAK Shockwave and not a shoulder stock, so that remains a pistol in the ATF's eyes. I will add though that if you have those parts and a shoulder stock available that has no legal host (16" barrel) on which to reside, that could be construed as constructive intent.
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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Thank you for the info. Always good to learn new things and I knew you all would be able to help.

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by djeuch View Post
    That looks like a KAK Shockwave and not a shoulder stock, so that remains a pistol in the ATF's eyes. I will add though that if you have those parts and a shoulder stock available that has no legal host (16" barrel) on which to reside, that could be construed as constructive intent.
    an AR rifle stock will not fit on the PISTOL buffer tube...

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emptymag View Post
    It's not a stock - it's a F#@%ING ARM BRACE.

    THAT IS NOT A RIFLE. It is a PISTOL.

    Here are three of mine.
    The bottom one is a pistol. It has a PISTOL buffer tube - a STOCK will NOT fit on it - different diameter tube - for a REASON.
    That is a Shockwave "Blade" arm brace - it is NOT a stock.


    Thanks for the visual.

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Every rifle like that should be illegal, nobody needs 30 rounds to shoot a fucking deer!

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    Default Re: Is there anything illegal about this rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by IIIIIREPOIIIII View Post
    Every rifle like that should be illegal, nobody needs 30 rounds to shoot a fucking deer!
    It's for turkeys, so no problem there.

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