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    Default Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Probably not going to be terribly popular here, but it's interesting nonetheless...

    AS I SEE IT
    by ROBERT D. FORD
    End scare tactics and bring troops home
    Wednesday, October 17, 2007

    I'd rather fight them over here. Think about it. They certainly would be
    a lot easier to spot. And just where would they get all their vehicles
    and artillery shells for their suicide bombs? And how would they
    purchase, prepare and supply several meals a day? And how would they
    safely communicate with one another? And where would they hide when they
    are not fighting?

    But my big question is: how are they going to get over here in the first
    place? And here is a good place for another question. Don't you think
    that if they really could get here to attack us whenever they wish, they
    would have done so long ago? And how about this: if you believe they
    really could just "follow us here" if we brought our troops home, aren't
    you then admitting that despite all the casualties, and all the billions
    spent, we cannot even protect our borders?

    Am I the only one who just doesn't get this whole "war on terror" thing?
    We were originally attacked by a squad of Saudi Arabians who were
    allowed to roam around the country at their leisure, a successful attack
    causing death and destruction on a scale that surely even they could
    never had imagined, but one nevertheless carried out by a mere handful
    of religious fanatics, and then only successful because the hundreds of
    people aboard were largely unaware of their impending fate.

    As we saw over Pennsylvania, those who eventually learned of their
    intentions took steps to deny them. Does anyone believe there will ever
    be another similar hijacking of an American plane? I certainly don't.
    Now that everyone is aware of what we are dealing with, no matter how
    many people aboard, there will be more than enough who will never allow
    another airliner to be used as an instrument of attack. If you don't
    believe that, you shouldn't be flying.

    And of course we had to go wherever it took to bring those responsible
    to justice. That is what everyone, including the majority of the rest of
    the world, fully supported. But what has been the result? And what have
    we done to ourselves in the process? We attacked and occupied a country
    that had nothing to do with 9/11, and now are mired in a civil war
    between warring tribes which began over a thousand years ago.

    I recently wrote that the idea of democracy in Iraq was one of the
    dumbest things ever to come out of Washington, and that still holds. But
    the ever-persistent notion by those who want this war to continue that
    somehow, if we leave Iraq, "they will follow us home" is the most
    ridiculous segment of the propaganda effort to keep the public
    frightened enough to not question why, and for what purpose, are we
    still spending $2 billion a week, and sacrificing our bravest citizens
    every day?

    After five years of war, the government recently reported we now control
    less than half of the city of Baghdad, and the general who seemingly is
    the only person who now can determine success or failure in this war is
    the same general during whose first tour in Iraq was responsible for
    training and equipping the Iraqi army to take over the fight. How did
    that work out?

    As an old rodeo bull-rider, I know that bravery and competency are two
    different things. One doesn't equal the other, any more than smearing
    the questioner answers a question. THE PRESIDENT has already proven "you
    can fool some of the people all the time," but the rest of us have every
    right to demand an end to the double-talk "scare-tactics" about this
    war. Let them follow us here. We will squash them like a bug! And maybe,
    just maybe, some of those who are so fond of this war could actually see
    some of their family and friends participate. The fact is, neither will
    ever happen.

    My auto inspector told me recently that his son, an infantryman in the
    Pennsylvania National Guard, has orders for Afghanistan before
    Christmas. Their joy over his return from his tour in Iraq was
    short-lived. They don't care who follows him home. They just want him to
    come home. And so do I -- the sooner the better.


    ROBERT D. FORD of Perry County served as director of Selective Service
    in Pennsylvania from 1971 to 1974

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    excellent read,,i agree with mr.ford,,

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    gets my vote....but you probably figured it would.

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Well written piece.

    I recently wrote that the idea of democracy in Iraq was one of the
    dumbest things ever to come out of Washington, and that still holds.
    Its sad but this is true. They don't understand democracy. They understand a dictatorship run by fear and oppression. When "W" retires after the next election we should appoint him dictator of Iraq and let him rule just like Saddam. With fear and oppression.

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    I would feel a lot safer if they used that 196 billion for homeland security and secured our ports and borders.

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Great article, thanks for posting.
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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Amen to that. A little common sense seems to go a long way. Then again, so does hype and propoganda that plays on citizens' "safety."

    Bring em home.

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguini66 View Post
    Its sad but this is true. They don't understand democracy. They understand a dictatorship run by fear and oppression.
    You know, this thought has crossed my mind before and I ponder it to this day. Did Saddam rule with such harshness simply because he was a cruel heartless bastard, or because it was necessary? Anyone else think that Saddam may have ruled the way he did because the general populace was so wild and unruly that no other method of governing was effective? Perhaps like an unruly little child that can't be reasoned with at all and the only way to get your point across is through a good swat to the rear end?

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    The only part I don't agree with is that they can't do their suicide bombings. They can get a rental car, get some type of explosive (shouldn't be too hard, they're loaded with money, even black powder would work). Like Steve said, if we put all that money into homeland security, we wouldn't have to worry about them even being here...
    "See, this side is well roasted; turn me on the other and eat." St. Lawrence

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    Default Re: Interesting Iraq War Editorial...

    Quote Originally Posted by jsb889 View Post
    The only part I don't agree with is that they can't do their suicide bombings. They can get a rental car, get some type of explosive (shouldn't be too hard, they're loaded with money, even black powder would work). Like Steve said, if we put all that money into homeland security, we wouldn't have to worry about them even being here...
    I agree they could. I mean before we went on a spending spree we were having them daily, I hope we don't go back to that..

    They could be doing that now if they wanted. If that was truely their goal I assure you they would be over here. While blowing up a humvee looks great to them.. Blowing up a humvee IN AMERICA looks even better.

    I don't think they really want to come here.

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