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November 26th, 2006, 09:23 AM #1
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Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
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November 26th, 2006, 10:53 AM #2
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
Hey, Let me be the first to say it. I think the police overreacted, a little. 50 rounds, do they not have any marksmanship training? Oh wait, Hillary is the Senator up there, they aren't allowed to play with their nice new shiny toys.
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November 26th, 2006, 12:08 PM #3
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
I wonder how the "LEOs are Gods amongst men therefore unable to make mistakes" will try to spin this one...
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November 26th, 2006, 12:19 PM #4
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
Yup, this one smells of a "we have to find a way to sweep this under the rug". Seems like the force, from what I read, was a tad excessive. Originally Posted by LorDiego01
I respect LEOs and the job they have to do, but this is exactly the kind of stuff that gives them all a bad name. If any non-LEO were to do something like this, there would be no question: they would've already locked the person away and thrown away the key."Political Correctness is just tyranny with manners"
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November 26th, 2006, 12:28 PM #5
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
Shoot now, ask later; better safe than sorry.
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November 26th, 2006, 12:29 PM #6
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
Originally Posted by LorDiego01
OK, but lets not paint with too broad of a brush.
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November 26th, 2006, 12:31 PM #7
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
I read in one story last night, one police officer emtied 31 rounds into the car! they said 2 mags, I take it NYPD carry 16 rnd mag, Emm lets do the math here... 16+16 = 32, Oops what happened a missfire?
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November 26th, 2006, 12:34 PM #8
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
I don't know what happened but I'm going to make a blanketed generalization. DO NOT RAM TWO POLICE CARS, ONE TWICE. I would take that as assault with a deadly weapon and I'd unload. If this guy was such a great pillar of society then why did he run and why did he ram the police cars? Maybe they rammed it after the shooting started? If that was the case then I would ask why did they start shooting? I don't know but if they did ram the cars before then I would say justifiable overkill. I'd pop another mag in if someone was ramming my car and didn't stop, and I venture to guess so would most of us. Now that being said its easy to jump to the conclusion that the police were in the wrong, but again we don't know the whole story. IT IS not anit or pro LEO that concerns me it is everyone here jumping to conclusions that worry me.
I'm not saying it was justified, I'm not saying it wasn't justified. I'm saying I'm ignorant to many of the revelvant facts to form an informed decision and perhaps so are the rest of us?Last edited by whoshisface; November 26th, 2006 at 12:40 PM.
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November 26th, 2006, 12:37 PM #9
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
No brushes here buddy! Originally Posted by phillyd2
OK, but lets not paint with too broad of a brush.
Just throwing fuel in the fire!
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November 26th, 2006, 12:39 PM #10
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Re: Here we go again--this time in the Big Apple
Well, in that case: Well Done Sir! Originally Posted by LorDiego01
No brushes here buddy!
Just throwing fuel in the fire!
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