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    How feasible do you all think it would be to carry an ak pistol? i was thinking maybe for a vehicle for emergencies and since you cant keep a loaded rifle in the vehicle why not an ak "pistol" have it mounted in the car door to complement your standard sidearm

    And does anyone make a saiga 12 pistol config? that would be great :]
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    IANAL, but to the best of my knowledge, you can NOT carry a loaded long gun in your vehicle, even if you have an LTCF.

    Also, to the best of my knowledge, but I'm not 100% positive on, it is illegal to convert a long gun (rifle or shotgun) into a pistol without going through the $200 NFA registration process. A pistol with a rifle receiver, such as an AK pistol or AR pistol, would have top be transferred as a pistol, and would have no legal association with its long gun counterpart.

    IANAL, so take it FWIW, but I'd ere on the side of caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggerh4ppy View Post
    How feasible do you all think it would be to carry an ak pistol? i was thinking maybe for a vehicle for emergencies and since you can keep a loaded rifle in the vehicle why not an ak "pistol" have it mounted in the car door to complement your standard sidearm

    And does anyone make a saiga 12 pistol config? that would be great :]
    Quote Originally Posted by BTA88 View Post
    IANAL, but to the best of my knowledge, you can NOT carry a loaded long gun in your vehicle, even if you have an LTCF.

    Also, to the best of my knowledge, but I'm not 100% positive on, it is illegal to convert a long gun (rifle or shotgun) into a pistol without going through the $200 NFA registration process. A pistol with a rifle receiver, such as an AK pistol or AR pistol, would have top be transferred as a pistol, and would have no legal association with its long gun counterpart.

    IANAL, so take it FWIW, but I'd ere on the side of caution.
    I think BTA88 is correct that it's illegal to convert a rifle/shotgun to a pistol.

    Also, AFAIK rifles can not be carried loaded in a vehicle in PA.

    You asked about the "saiga 12 pistol config", that would be an AOW, or if it has a stock it would be a SBS.
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    there are much easier ways to get your ass sent to prison than to carry an AK-47 pistol and use a screen name as "TriggerHappy".

    I'm not hating, more power to you, but you'd never make it out of that court-room with a favorable verdict should the worst happen.
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    You can buy AK pistols, so they would be legal to carry or keep in your car. However, they are unwieldy and heavy. It'd be a lot easier to carry a Glock 17 and a spare magazine (about 34 rounds).
    Also...if you really think you need that much firepower, you'd be better off moving to a more sedate area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggerh4ppy View Post
    ...and since you can keep a loaded rifle in the vehicle ...
    You can not legally keep a loaded long gun in your vehicle in Pennsylvania.


    edited for semantics
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinville View Post
    You can not legally keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle in Pennsylvania.
    this is wholly incorrect, try not to declare absolutes.

    you can keep a loaded rifle or shotgun in your vehicle in PA as long as it meets the definition of a "firearm" for LTCF purposes.

    this definition means:
    pistol or revolver with a barrel of 15" or less (includes AOWs.)
    rifle with a barrel less than 16" (rgistered NFA Short Barreled Rifle)
    shotgun with a barrel less than 18" (registered NFA Short Barreled Shotgun)

    you may NOT carry or transport a loaded TITLE 1 rifle or shotgun in a vehicle in PA.

    I can carry my P90 SBR loaded in my vehicle or on me
    I can carry my AR-15 SBR loaded in my vehicle or on me
    I can carry my M16(sub 16" barrel), or Uzi full autos loaded in m vehicle or on me
    I can carry my Benelli Entry gun loaded in my vehicle or on me
    I can carry my Krink Ak pistol loaded in my vehicle or on me

    the above match the descriptions for LTCF carry weapons.

    may not be the smartest thing, but I can do it, and have on occasion, had bigger firepower available than may be required
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    I think i'd rather pay the extra to have an SBR rather than a rifle caliber pistol.

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    When I lived in AZ, a CCW meant anything not full auto.

    Here in NV, You can carry a rifle loaded in a vehicle but not chambered.

    An AK pistol, while is a handgun, I would feel awkward qualifying with it beind so bold to add that gun to my permit, but you can have it loaded and chambered in a car.

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    I thought krinkovs were pistol versions of aks and not considered a SBR.
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