Taking my fiancee to get her LTCF tomorrow. HELP!

[Strapped]

Well as we all know Monroe county is just plain bullshit, take a look at the website and see just how wrong they are, about damn near everything! They even call it a "Concealed Weapons Permit".

http://www.co.monroe.pa.us/judicial/...=1537&q=604789

Well my fiancee has non of the following criteria:

Has not been a resident for at least 60 days.
Does not have 2 Monroe county refferances.
Does not have a Local 1% Earned Income Tax paper.

So how should I go about handling this?

My plan was to
1. just walk her in there
2. ask for an application
3. get app,
4. leave,
5. go to the court house talk to a judge
6. either have the judge order the sheriff to follow PA law, or sue the living dog shit outta this sheriff asshole who thinks he can do what he fucking pleases.

I just want her to get her LTCF as PA LAW SEES FIT!
Or I really don't mind sueing this guy, I have the time and resources.

And suggestions?


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Concealed Weapons Permits

Basic Requirements for Concealed Weapons Permits
21 years of age
Full time Monroe County resident
Pennsylvania resident for at least 60 days prior to application
All paperwork must be submitted to the Monroe County Sheriff's Office IN PERSON.

Crimes that would prohibit you from getting a Concealed Weapons Permit
See the back side of the application for a list of prohibited offenses and any conviction for a misdemeanor 1 or any felony.

Paperwork Necessary for Concealed Weapons Permit
Download complete Instruction Sheet. Be sure to read the ENTIRE Instruction Sheet, front and back, PRIOR to completing the application. The application MUST have both sides printed on one sheet of paper.
Pennsylvania Driver's License or Pennsylvania Non-Driver Photo Identification Card
Photocopy of Local 1% Earned Income Tax or other tax paper if retired/disabled (Please refer to full instruction sheet for information)
2 References (Must be Monroe County Residents - Please refer to full instruction sheet for reference requirements)
If disabled - Written documentation from your doctor or social security explaining the nature of your disability.
Copy of your DD-214 if you were in the military.
Non U.S. Citizens need to provide the Immigration Identification Number. Please bring to the office as it must be photocopied for your file.
Your photograph will be taken at the time of application.

Attachments in Adobe Format
Click here for Instructions for License to Carry Firearms Application
Click here for Application For PA License To Carry Firearms
Note: This form MUST be printed 2-sided.
Select your printer's manual feed option and flip the sheet over when printing the 2nd page.

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Sheriff to Conduct Investigation
The sheriff to whom the application is made shall investigate the applicant's record of criminal convictions, shall investigate whether or not the applicant is under indictment for or ever has been convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment exceeding one year, shall investigate whether the applicant's character and reputation are such that the applicant will not be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety and shall investigate whether the applicant would be precluded from receiving a license under subsection (e)(1) or section 6105(h) (relating to persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms) and shall conduct a criminal background, juvenile delinquency or mental health check following the procedures set forth in section 6111 (relating to firearm ownership).

Fees
$5.00 processing application fee
$5.00 photo fee that is superimposed onto your license
$5.00 state modernization fund
$1.00 state validation system fund
The total fee to drop off an application is $16.00 (CASH ONLY). This is Non-Refundable fee.
Renewals
An application will be mailed to the last known address 60 days prior to expiration.
The same requirements apply as above. It is like starting all over as if you never had one before. The same fees apply.

Out of State Requirements
Application
A copy of your FULL, UNRESTRICTED permit from your home state. This does not include target permits, purchase permits or employment permits issued by your home state.
Fees apply as noted above.

Reciprocity - Pennsylvania has reciprocity with the following states:
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Michigan
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Texas
Wyoming
(See the PA Attorney General Web Site for updates and to read the reciprocity agreements)

If approved, this license does not authorize/exempt anyone to carry a firearm for employment purposes. There are exceptions as listed under Section 6106 of the Pennsylvania Crimes Code - (Firearms not to be carried without a license). You will be in violation of the law if you carry a firearm for employment purposes unless you are properly certified under Act 235 - Lethal Weapons Training Act. This certification and information can be obtained directly from the Pennsylvania State Police.

All applicants are reminded that furnishing false information to law enforcement is a violation of Section 4904 of the Pennsylvania Crimes Code - Title 18 (Unsworn Falsification to Authorities). Any violation shall be dealt with according to law and prosecuted by this office.

Questions regarding these requirements can be answered
by calling (570) 420-3675 between 8:00 AM and 5:00 PM Monday thru Friday
or by emailing Sheriff's Firearms Unit


Firearm Brochures:

Firearm Laws for Pennsylvania

Safe Gun Handling

[unloved]

Or I really don't mind sueing this guy, I have the time and resources.

Go for it. I'm sure your fellow Monroe County residents will thank you. I'd suggest sitting down with the app. and the relevant statutes and making note of all discrepancies, and possibly consult an attorney for advice on how to proceed.

[whoshisface]

if you can talk to a judge I say go do it. Bring a print out of the law with you and do not give it to him unless he says he needs to review it. Regardless, fill out the form as required by law and see what the sheriff does. He's still going to insist on a check card. You can either fight him the whole way or cave in. Do whatever you wish, if he still violates the law let us know if you sue him. Many of us would be willing to assist with donations.

Good luck, and I'd be very pleased if you started a legal battle over this. I'll show whatever support I can! He's a good sheriff and a bad one at the same time. I'd vote for him! If he'd just get off his antigun above the law kick he'd be perfect.

[Strapped]

if you can talk to a judge I say go do it. Bring a print out of the law with you and do not give it to him unless he says he needs to review it. Regardless, fill out the form as required by law and see what the sheriff does. He's still going to insist on a check card. You can either fight him the whole way or cave in. Do whatever you wish, if he still violates the law let us know if you sue him. Many of us would be willing to assist with donations.

Good luck, and I'd be very pleased if you started a legal battle over this. I'll show whatever support I can! He's a good sheriff and a bad one at the same time. I'd vote for him! If he'd just get off his antigun above the law kick he'd be perfect.

Can someone post a link to PA law concerning the issuing of LTCF please.

[Single shot]

I take it your Kidding about # 5, and really Kidding about # 6 Right.
SS

[Strapped]

Your Kidding about # 5, Right, and really Kidding about
# 6.
SS

I'm not kidding about anything.
Either he will follow PA law and stop making up his own shit, or I will file a suit against him for violation of rights and whatever else I can.

Yeah, I could just do what he ask, but wheres the fun in that?

[unloved]

Can someone post a link to PA law concerning the issuing of LTCF please.

Here you go. http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/...6109/licenses/

[Single shot]

I wish you all the luck in doing what ever it takes, and I'm sure you will have a lot of support from this group, but he's got judges and a lot of others on his side, they sort of all sleep in the same bed if you know what I mean, and it will be very hard to find someone, never mind, it's important to have fun.
Sock it to em.
SS

[Strapped]

I wish you all the luck in doing what ever it takes, and I'm sure you will have a lot of support from this group, but he's got judges and a lot of others on his side, they sort of all sleep in the same bed if you know what I mean, and it will be very hard to find someone, never mind, it's important to have fun.
Sock it to em.
SS

Then that means they are all crooked and deserve to made an example of. The one thing I can't stand is abuse of power.

[xd40_jim]

Good luck in your adventures and have "fun", lol.