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Thread: Transporting a Firearms
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November 29th, 2021, 03:47 PM #41Junior Member
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Re: Transporting a Firearms
You are correct. One reason to look at original legislation is seeing what was taken out or crossed out in order to get a better understanding of thinking or reasoning behind the new language. What I’m also looking at which seemed like everyone overlooks is the sentence,
If the magazine is inserted into a pouch, holder, holster or other protective device that provides for a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition, then the pouch, holder, holster or other protective device shall be deemed to be a separate compartment
Hence it would seem to me that if you have the rifle by itself in the lock box and you have your magazines in a zipped pouch or magazine pouches or holster that covers the magazine then you should be able to have the two together and be considered separate compartments. However I don’t find anyone really paying attention to that sentence and they all focus on the sentence before.
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November 29th, 2021, 03:47 PM #42Junior Member
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November 29th, 2021, 04:21 PM #43
Re: Transporting a Firearms
Whether a loose pouch inside a gun case is a "separate compartment" is a fact question, for the jury or judge.
One dictionary definition is:
a separate section of a structure or container in which certain items can be kept separate from others.
"there's some ice cream in the freezer compartment"
synonyms:
section · part · partition · bay · recess · chamber · cavity · niche · nook · hollow · pocket · pouch · receptacle
So "pouch" was thrown in by the anonymous author. A kangaroo has a pouch attached to her body, but a kid might have a pouch for his lunch money. No real help there.
In common use, you have a glove compartment in your car, a freezer compartment and crisper compartment in your fridge. I think of a "compartment" as a fixed sub-area within a defined volume, not as a free-floating container or bag.
Be aware that PA's appellate courts are largely anti-gun rights, to the point that they wrote that a Pennsylvania resident doesn't qualify as "any person". Declaring that a free-floating pouch is not a "compartment" would be an easier stretch for them, at which point you get convicted of the summary offense (if a long gun) or the misdemeanor or felony if it was handgun on the way to the range without an LTCF for cover.Attorney Phil Kline, AKA gunlawyer001@gmail.com
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November 29th, 2021, 04:37 PM #44Grand Member
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Re: Transporting a Firearms
So basically in a nutshell: one container for guns, another separate container or case for loaded mags...and or ammo.
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November 29th, 2021, 05:34 PM #45Junior Member
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Re: Transporting a Firearms
Thank you for clarifying that. I guess the safest thing in my case, since the soft gun case with outside pouches hardly fit with everything in it, would be to have the long gun in the locked safe box under the back seat and have the loaded magazines in a different box maybe in the back of the front seats so they could be easily accessed from the area between the front and back seat. Then they are in separate cases. Or go with an AR pistol either 80% or not and have the magazines with it in the same locked box. Dose that sound wise? Thank you
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November 30th, 2021, 08:56 AM #46Grand Member
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Re: Transporting a Firearms
I carried a very functional SKS as a truck gun for years. Here in the boonies, it was more for dispatching wounded deer, than defending against felons, pedophiles and wife beaters (Nice work Kyle!). I have settled on my pistols as adequate for now. If things get more sporty, I will adjust as necessary.
We humans DO have the capacity to be aware of our surroundings, and MOST situations that I can think of would give some advance warning that an AR 15 might be needed.
Remember the vehicle is good for offense AND defense AND running away.American by BIRTH, Infidel by CHOICE
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December 1st, 2021, 12:40 AM #47Junior Member
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