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    Default It had to happen...

    The AP is now going after AKs. We knew that the press would start going after various weapons now that they feel they have a good shot of Dems in the oval office as well as both houses and now they are starting to prove it.

    Here is a small excerpt from the AP Article

    AK-47s are turning up more in US

    By MATT SEDENSKY, Associated Press Writer 9 minutes ago

    KENNER, La. - The cake had been served and the children were jumping up and down in a big, inflatable castle when the birthday party turned to bedlam.


    Clarence McGraw's jaw dropped as he saw the visitors coming, guns drawn. The screaming began.

    Children ran everywhere in the courtyard of the low-income apartment complex; adults fell to the ground. Bullets flew. The killers wounded three youngsters, but for reasons police can't explain, it was 19-year-old McGraw they were after.

    As McGraw lay in the center of the green square, the gunmen stood over him and fired again. He was shot 15 to 20 times in all.

    The Sept. 15 killing was remarkable in that it took place in the most innocent of settings — the fifth birthday of twin boys. But it was unremarkable in that one of the guns brandished was an AK-47-type rifle — a powerful, rapid-fire weapon that has long been used in Third World conflicts but is increasingly being used in American street fights.

    Figures from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, obtained by The Associated Press through public records requests, show a marked increase in the number of AK-type weapons traced and entered into the agency's computer database because they had been seized or connected to a crime.

    The number of such tracings rose even while the federal assault weapons ban was in effect and has continued to climb since its expiration.

    Since 1993, the year before the ban took affect, ATF has recorded a more than sevenfold increase in 7.62x39mm guns — which includes the original Russian-made AK-47 and a variety of copycats from around the world. The number of AK-type guns rose from 1,140 in 1993 to 8,547 last year.

    Since 2005, the first full year after the ban's expiration, ATF has recorded an 11 percent increase in such tracings.

    ATF says the increases in the first half of the 1990s are partly the result of wider usage of its weapons database by local law enforcement agencies. But after that point, the numbers reflect a real increase in tracings of AK-type guns, the agency acknowledged.
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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    I'm sure that the offenders all purchased those AK rifles legally from their local firearm dealer and passed the background check with flying colors, right? Right?!? [crickets....]

    Everybody knows that if we make the product illegal, it will stop the use and demand for that product. Just look at prohibition. :rolleyes
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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    The basis for reporting the "sevenfold increase" is disingenuous at best. These are pretty small numbers. Most bad guys don;t use these kinds of weapons due to their poor concealability. So I think that this AP report is just another example of how the Brady Bunch types overplay the threat.
    Last edited by scjbob; March 26th, 2008 at 04:58 PM.

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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    What next, banning cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana so that people stop using them?

    Oh wait..

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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    damn ! And I really wanted to save up for a nice 1911, but if they really start to dig into the AKs then I might have to get one while I can.


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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    We have pattern-AKM and pattern-AK74 rifles in the USA that are sold "OTC" and "without any accountability, face to face" in the United States. Of course telling the people through mainstream media this would not be as appealing to their movie-watching-schemas as overglorifying the name "AK-47" that resounds in everyone's heads.

    We can all pull the trigger really fast on many guns. Words lose their meanings when we use them for sensationalism. "Rapid-fire" and "powerful" are also useless without competent comparison but will otherwise provoke a non-tempered people.

    MATT SEDENSKY and his editor needs to tell us what he knows about arms and responsible journalism, since it appears he's unfamiliar with either.

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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    They call every rifle an "AK-47 style assault weapon" so what does it matter?
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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    NOthing new....

    Same shit since forever.

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    Default Re: It had to happen...

    Quote Originally Posted by Stooperzero View Post
    NOthing new....

    Same shit since forever.
    Why, if AK's were illegal the victim would probably still be alive!

    Damn AK's are evil.

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    Talking Re: It had to happen...

    If someone would just make a rap video that prominently featured those cute Cricket rifles...

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