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May 12th, 2007, 07:02 PM #1
Terrorist Academy in upstate NY
I haven't seen anything mentioned by the U.S. Medias about this!----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Springtime in Islamberg
Radical Muslim paramilitary compound flourishes in upper New York state
By Paul L. Williams Ph.D., (author of THE DAY OF ISLAM)
With the able assistance of Douglas Hagmann, Bill Krayer and Michael Travis
Friday, May 11, 2007
Situated within a dense forest at the foothills of the Catskill Mountains on the outskirts of Hancock, New York, Islamberg is not an ideal place for a summer vacation unless, of course, you are an exponent of the Jihad or a fan of Osama bin Laden.
The 70 acre complex is surrounded with "No trespassing" signs; the rocky terrain is infested with rattlesnakes; and the woods are home to black bears, coyotes, wolves, and a few bobcats.
The entrance to the community is at the bottom of a very steep hill that is difficult to navigate even on a bright sunny day in May. The road, dubbed Muslim Lane, is unpaved and marred by deep crevices that have been created by torrential downpours. On a wintry day, few, save those with all terrain vehicles, could venture forth from the remote encampment.
A sentry post has been established at the base of the hill.
The sentry, at the time of this visit, is an African American dressed in Islamic garb - - a skull cap, a prayer shawl, and a loose fitting shalwat kameez. He instructs us to turn around and leave. "Our community http://www.islamberg.org/ is not open to visitors," he says.
Behind the sentry and across a small stream stand dozens of inhabitants of the compound - - the men wearing skull caps and loose fitting tunics, the women in full burqa. They appear ready to deal with any unauthorized intruders.
The hillside is blighted by rusty trailers that appear to be without power or running water and a number of outhouses. The scent of raw sewage is in the air.
The place is even off limits to the local undertaker who says that he has delivered bodies to the complex but has never been granted entrance. "They come and take the bodies from my hearse. They won't allow me to get past the sentry post. They say that they want to prepare the bodies for burial. But I never get the bodies back. I don't know what's going on there but I don't think it's legal."
On the other side of the hill where few dare to go is a tiny village replete with a make-shift learning center (dubbed the "International Quranic Open University"); a trailer converted into a Laundromat; a small, green community center; a small and rather squalid grocery store; a newly constructed majid; over forty clapboard homes; and scores of additional trailers.
It is home to hundreds - - all in Islamic attire, and all African-Americans. Most drive late model SUVs with license plates from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, South Carolina, and Tennessee. The locals say that some work as tollbooth operators for the New York State Thruway, while others are employed at a credit card processing center that maintains confidential financial records.
While buzzing with activity during the week, the place becomes a virtual hive on weekends. The guest includes arrivals from the inner cities of New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania and, occasionally, white-robed dignitaries in Ray-Bans from the Middle East.
Venturing into the complex last summer, Douglas Hagmann, an intrepid investigator and director of the Northeast Intelligence Service, came upon a military training area at the eastern perimeter of the property. The area was equipped with ropes hanging from tall trees, wooden fences for scaling, a make-shift obstacle course, and a firing range. Hagmann said that the range appeared to have been in regular use.
Islamberg is not as benign as a Buddhist monastery or a Carmelite convent. Nearly every weekend, neighbors hear sounds of gunfire. Some, including a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, have heard the bang of small explosives. None of the neighbors wished to be identified for fear of "retaliation." "We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," one resident said. "They own the mountain and they know it and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy a property near that?"
The complex serves to scare the bejeesus out of the local residents. "If you go there, you better wear body armor," a customer at the Circle E Diner in Hancock said. "They have armed guards and if they shoot you, nobody will find your body."
At Cousins, a watering hole in nearby Deposit, a barfly, who didn't wish to be identified, said: "The place is dangerous. You can hear gunfire up there. I can't understand why the FBI won't shut it down."
Islamberg is a branch of Muslims of the Americas Inc., a tax-exempt organization formed in 1980 by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, who refers to himself as "the sixth Sultan Ul Faqr," Gilani, has been directly linked by court documents to Jamaat ul-Fuqra or "community of the impoverished," an organization that seeks to "purify" Islam through violence.
Though primarily based in Lahore, Pakistan, Jamaat ul-Fuqra has operational headquarters in New York and openly recruits through various social service organizations in the U.S., including the prison system. Members live in hamaats or compounds, such as Islamberg, where they agree to abide by the laws of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which are considered to be above local, state and federal authority. Additional hamaats have been established in Hyattsville, Maryland; Red House, Virginia; Falls Church, Virginia; Macon, Georgia; York, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee; Buena Vista, Colorado; Talihina, Oklahoma; Tulane Country, California; Commerce, California; and Onalaska, Washington. Others are being built, including an expansive facility in Sherman, Pennsylvania.
Before becoming a citizen of Islamberg or any of the other Fuqra compounds, the recruits - - primarily inner city black men who became converts in prison - - are compelled to sign an oath that reads: "I shall always hear and obey, and whenever given the command, I shall readily fight for Allah's sake."
In the past, thousands of members of the U.S. branches of Jamaat ul-Fuqra traveled to Pakistan for paramilitary training, but encampments, such as Islamberg, are now capable of providing book-camp training so raw recruits are no longer required to travel abroad amidst the increased scrutiny of post 9/11.
Over the years, numerous members of Jamaat ul-Fuqra have been convicted in US courts of such crimes as conspiracy to commit murder, firebombing, gun smuggling, and workers' compensation fraud. Others remain leading suspects in criminal cases throughout the country, including ten unsolved assassinations and seventeen fire-bombings between 1979 and 1990.
The criminal charges against the group and the criminal convictions are not things of the past. In 2001, a resident of a California compound was charged with first-degree murder in the shooting of a sheriff's deputy; another was charged with gun-smuggling' and twenty-four members of the Red House community were convicted of firearms violations.
By 2004 federal investigators uncovered evidence that linked both the DC "sniper killer" John Allen Muhammed and "Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid to the group and reports surfaced that Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was captured and beheaded in the process of attempting to obtain an interview with Sheikh Gilani in Pakistan.
Even though Jamaat ul-Fuqra has been involved in terror attacks and sundry criminal activities, recruited thousands of members from federal and state penal systems, and appears to be operating paramilitary facilities for militant Muslims, it remains to be placed on the official US Terror Watch List. On the contrary, it continues to operate, flourish, and expand as a legitimate nonprofit, tax-deductible charity.
(Paul Williams is the author of THE AL QAEDA CONNECTION and forthcoming
THE DAY OF ISLAM. Lee Boyland is the author of THE RINGS OF ALLAH).
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/...iams051107.htmLast edited by Lambo; May 12th, 2007 at 08:18 PM.
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May 17th, 2007, 01:15 PM #2
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I heard about this yesterday on the radio. Dr. Williams, a Pennsylvanian by the way, said that there were several of these locations nation-wide to include a new one that he had just verified the existance of just outside of Montrose. Those of you in the NE part of the state need to keep your eyes open.
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May 17th, 2007, 02:39 PM #3
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And nothing gets done about this why???
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May 17th, 2007, 02:44 PM #4
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May 17th, 2007, 02:52 PM #5
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Yeah, roger everything that Billiam said. I think that Big Brother is well aware of and also entrenched in this group. Anything that looks like an anti- US Gov't militia gets pegged as a "terrorist threat". I think the feds are waiting for these scum to make the big move - try and buy machineguns/explosives then bust 'em all. They can't bust these guys for the Islamist part (1st ammendment, freedom of Religion) or the training (they'd have to bust every single Airsoft camp out there, then).
Don't worry about it.NEED should never enter into a discussion about RIGHTS
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May 17th, 2007, 02:53 PM #6
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has the group actually done anything illegal?
sounds like some of their members have and have been arrested.
(note: i'm not defending the group by any means...and it is quite possible that they have done something illegal...i really don't know, the question is sincere.)
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May 17th, 2007, 02:58 PM #7
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I know--let's surround them with tanks and Waco their asses!
Sorry, but this article does a great job of making a complete lack of information sound scary. Some black muslims are running a closed community on private property, which includes a gun club. They're probably weird. Other than that, every single "fact" in the article is another piece of nothing: we don't know what they do in there; we don't know what they're up to; we don't know why they won't let anyone in; we think they're weird; etc. There's nothing in the article to substantiate the slightest hint of terrorism.
The real money quote is right here:
The complex serves to scare the bejeesus out of the local residents. "If you go there, you better wear body armor," a customer at the Circle E Diner in Hancock said. "They have armed guards and if they shoot you, nobody will find your body."
When I lived in upstate New York, hicks spread the word that my family was a mysterious cult. Why? Because we were new in town, didn't get out much, and had an aunt living with us (the aunt was "part of the cult leader's harem"). Another time it was rumored that I had occult powers, because I looked funny at a fat old co-worker once, and she fell ill the next day. The Salem witch trials weren't THAT long ago, folks. (OK, I admit it was a bit of a head rush hearing someone confide in a coworker, "You'd better not cross him. People make him mad; BAAAAD things happen to them.")
The connections with al Fuqra are worth looking into further, but so far there's nothing to see here.
--Len.Last edited by budney; May 17th, 2007 at 03:01 PM.
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May 17th, 2007, 03:22 PM #8
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Striking connections to Waco so far.
My opinion, keep an eye on them but be very careful if, when, and how they do something about it.
If they are just a bunch of asshats and are anti-american, that's still protected unless they break some laws.
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May 17th, 2007, 03:31 PM #9
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From what I understand the vast majority of the "gentlemen" living at this site are felons who are not allowed access to firearms. This would make them all subject to arrest again.
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May 17th, 2007, 04:25 PM #10
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Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.- George Washington
"I thought Lycan was a she"-dragonofpa
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