More Jack-Booted Thuggery?

[625]

Not a ton of info here, but it sure looks like it so far.

Anderson had prompted the ire of the Border Patrol by refusing to submit to an unconstitutional search at a "border enforcement" checkpoint well north of the border with Mexico. The Boyz in the Brown Shirts initially created a pretext by claiming -- dishonestly -- that one of their dogs "alerted" to Anderson's car after the Pastor refused to permit a search.

That pretext was abandoned entirely after knuckle-draggers arrived from the Arizona State Police. After vandalizing Anderson's car, they tased him -- despite the fact that he put up no resistance and posed no threat to the platoon-sized mob of law enforcement personnel -- and ground his face into the shattered glass of his ruined car windows.

snipped from here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewr...es/026762.html

[pirateron]

kinda made me sick to my stomach a little, watching that. I think the phrase "justify beating down a civilian who fails to render proper subservience" seems to be the most disgusting, yet most real part of the article. I counted no less than 8 officers surrounding this incident, not one of which tried to intervene, so that leads me to believe that this type of behavior is an excepted practice in that area. A shame really, that this isn't national news right now.. not surprising though.










**** disclaimer**** This is just my opinion, not meant to be condescending or demeaning if contrary to others opinions on this subject.

[unclejumbo]

I would like to hear the other side on this. I do know that when he was told he was under arrest at the very beginning of the video, it was time to comply. You have plenty of recourse after the fact if it was an unlawful arrest. You don't have any right to debate that you are under arrest when it is happening.

Some of you may disagree, but I believe the lawyers on this site will back my statement.

As for the Taser. They hurt like hell for five seconds and then it stops. Much more humane than a baton, fists or even pepper spray. They have saved a lot of lives already and reduced injury to both non-compliant arrestees and officers.

[fingers80002]

I would like to hear the other side on this. I do know that when he was told he was under arrest at the very beginning of the video, it was time to comply. You have plenty of recourse after the fact if it was an unlawful arrest. You don't have any right to debate that you are under arrest when it is happening.

Some of you may disagree, but I believe the lawyers on this site will back my statement.

As for the Taser. They hurt like hell for five seconds and then it stops. Much more humane than a baton, fists or even pepper spray. They have saved a lot of lives already and reduced injury to both non-compliant arrestees and officers.

I would like to know why this even happened.
BTW: the full stop is posted on the board.

[ScaredOnce]

I would like to know why this even happened.
BTW: the full stop is posted on the board.

I would also like to know the "why" to this. I think I actually recognize the guy in the videos voice and style of communication from other youtube vids I've seen.

I don't know what the video doesn't show. But, if the circumstances support my knee-jerk interpretation... I'm appalled. Yet, more info is needed.

I can't post what I really feel; I'd be banished forever. But, morons like those "agents" are inviting domestic "actions".

[GoldWinger]

Not long ago, I read that a citizen MUST obey any order given by a police officer and it doesn't matter if that order if legal or illegal. So a cop could order you to quack like a duck, do the Macarena or even shoot someone. Sure you can always sort it out after you do the what he says but by then it might be too late.

As an aside, why do cops never tell you why they pulled you over when they first come to your window?

[son of the revolution]

I think I actually recognize the guy in the videos voice and style of communication from other youtube vids I've seen.

The force is strong with this one I think .

Heres one of the other videos from the same guy

[GoldWinger]

Interesting, we suspect you of something but we don't know what so we want to search your car. Good for him, he stood up for his rights. If they really had something, they wouldn't have let him go.

Hmmmm . .. . was this one before or after the beatdown? Maybe the beatdown was in response to this episode.

I also wonder if the BP can demand your license because you're operating a motor vehicle, I doubt they have authority to enforce traffic laws.

Notice that none of the Agents are the image of fitness?

[GoldWinger]

Got to admire those Christians and the courage of their convictions. I don't know if I'd have the balls to do what he did.

Good for him.

[son of the revolution]

Interesting, we suspect you of something but we don't know what so we want to search your car. Good for him, he stood up for his rights. If they really had something, they wouldn't have let him go.

Hmmmm . .. . was this one before or after the beatdown? Maybe the beatdown was in response to this episode.

I also wonder if the BP can demand your license because you're operating a motor vehicle, I doubt they have authority to enforce traffic laws.

Notice that none of the Agents are the image of fitness?

The one I posted ( daylight ) is definetly the first incident , and the widely held belief is that yes the night time one where he got the beatdown was a reprisal for the first incident