HB 386 - The creeps are still at it!

[Brick]

Even though Lentz and his anti-reciprocity bill were both defeated. The Anti's are still trying. Pay special attention to the date this bill was filed! Are you sure there are no more "voting days" left in this session?

PRINTER'S NO. 4504
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA
HOUSE BILL No. 386 Session of 2010

INTRODUCED BY DONATUCCI, THOMAS, JOHNSON, MAHONEY, PAYTON, BISHOP, WATERS, MELIO, WAGNER, McGEEHAN, M. O'BRIEN, MIRABITO, JOSEPHS, YOUNGBLOOD, ROEBUCK, PASHINSKI, BRIGGS AND GERBER, NOVEMBER 22, 2010

REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY, NOVEMBER 22, 2010

AN ACT
1 Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
2 Consolidated Statutes, further providing for firearms not to
3 be carried without a license.
4 The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
5 hereby enacts as follows:
6 Section 1. Section 6106(b)(15) of Title 18 of the
7 Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes is amended to read:
8 § 6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.
9 * * *
10 (b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not
11 apply to:
12 * * *
13 (15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully
14 issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been
15 issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether
16 a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and
17 the state under section 6109(k), provided:
1 (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for
2 individuals licensed to carry firearms under section
3 6109.
4 (ii) The person has applied to and not been denied a
5 license by a sheriff or the chief of police of a city of
6 the first class.
7 [(ii)] (iii) The Attorney General has determined
8 that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the
9 firearm laws of this Commonwealth.
10 * * *
11 Section 2. This act shall take effect in 60 days.

[chivvalry]

Ah, the city of brotherly love... Hopefully this will go nowhere.

[marko138]

DONATUCCI passed away a few weeks ago. Long before Nov 22nd.

[IronSight]

Yet another failing attempt to ignore all the issues we raised with Lentz's legislation. I'll call around about this but there's no way this is going anywhere this year.

The fact that the bill # is low makes me wonder if this was somehow re-introduced from earlier in the year; either way it's all very strange.

[kadar]

6109.
(ii) The person has applied to and not been denied a
license by a sheriff or the chief of police of a city of
the first class.

A simple comma would have made a world of difference of intent.


It would require everyone to obtain the LTCF from a city of the first class.

[WhiteFeather]

Yet another failing attempt to ignore all the issues we raised with Lentz's legislation. I'll call around about this but there's no way this is going anywhere this year.

The fact that the bill # is low makes me wonder if this was somehow re-introduced from earlier in the year; either way it's all very strange.

Very strange indeed that such a low bill number unless it was held for something else, then look at the high printer.

There is ZERO chance this going anywhere when the session is over on Nov 30, 2010, must be for PR purposes

DONATUCCI passed away a few weeks ago. Long before Nov 22nd.

So we have a open seat next session till a special election is held.

Well had a "F" grade from FOAC for a long hard core anti gunner voting career to take away our rights.

So its kind of funny how the dead can file and push a bill from the grave.

Maybe finally we now can dump the state liquor stores and save the taxpayer some money with less state government pay roll.



http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...html?viewAll=y

State Rep. Robert Donatucci dies

State Rep. Robert C. Donatucci, 58, who received 84 percent of the vote last week in being elected to his 16th House term, died asleep in his bed in South Philadelphia early Tuesday, his family said.

His death was related to sleep apnea, for which he was being treated, said his brother Ronald, the city register of wills.

Robert Donatucci, a Democrat who chaired the House Liquor Control Committee and was a collector of antique Chrysler cars, had been at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital about a week earlier for a sleep study, his brother said.

He found the mask uncomfortable and did not complete the test, but had resolved to lose a few pounds, his brother said. He had no history of heart problems.

Fire rescue personnel were called to the house when his wife, Marie, discovered he was not breathing.

The precise cause of Rep. Donatucci's death was not immediately known. His brother said a doctor had told him the death was related to sleep apnea.

The Philadelphia Medical Examiner's Office said the death certificate was signed by a private physician.

"Philadelphia has lost a great leader today," said House Majority Leader Todd A. Eachus (D., Luzerne). "Rep. Donatucci has spent the past 30 years representing his constituents in Harrisburg with honor and distinction."

Gov. Rendell said: "Rep. Donatucci was a gentleman - and a gentle man - who devoted his life to his family and public service. . . . He will be remembered for his ability to reach across the aisle to form consensus in the best interest of all Pennsylvanians."

A low-key legislator who chose to sit in the back row of the House, Rep. Donatucci won a special election in 1980 to fill a seat previously held by his brother Ronald. He was reelected every two years since then.

His 185th District includes the 26th Ward in South Philadelphia, half of the 40th Ward in Southwest Philadelphia, and three communities in Delaware County: Darby Township, Darby Borough, and Colwyn Borough.

As leader of the Liquor Control Committee, Rep. Donatucci was charged with overseeing a State Store system that dates to the end of Prohibition. He tried to modernize the system in baby steps while following its original aim of protecting the public from alcohol excesses.

Rep. Ronald Waters (D., Phila.) said Rep. Donatucci aided him several years ago in getting a law passed that cracked down on deli stores - the so-called "stop-and-go" stores that often became neighborhood nuisances by selling malt liquor to minors and alcoholics.

"He helped get it done," Waters said Tuesday.

Rep. Donatucci often got things accomplished by working with Republicans.

"He was one of the last great bipartisan kind of guys," said Rep. John Taylor (R., Phila.), the GOP leader on the liquor committee. "There were very few votes that were heavily contested."

Rep. Donatucci was a defender of Pennsylvania's state-owned liquor stores, which are staffed by 3,000 unionized employees.

Gov.-elect Tom Corbett and Republican legislative leaders have vowed to sell the stores to reap up to $2 billion to offset a budget deficit. Rep. Donatucci undoubtedly would have been on the front lines of efforts to block that.

While his brother Ronald Donatucci is colorful and always well-dressed, Bobby Donatucci did not fret over clothes. And while Ronnie, by his own account, might go out to dine or have a drink after work, Bobby usually went straight home to his family.

Sundays at 7 a.m., he attended Mass at St. Monica's Parish, 17th and Ritner Streets.

"Bobby's style was very simple," his brother said. "His word was his reputation. If he was for something, you could go to sleep on it."

Rep. Donatucci graduated from Bishop Neumann High School in 1970 and Temple University in 1974.

His one colorful trait was a passion for classic cars, which he bought, restored and sold. He had maybe 30 of them - all Chrysler-built - and kept them warehoused in Kensington and South Philadelphia.

Among his favorites were a 1959 DeSoto Adventurer, one of the few in existence, and a Chrysler Sinatra, named for the "chairman of the board."

Rep. Mark Cohen (D., Phila.) said Rep. Donatucci was never flashy, but always solid.

"He spoke very rarely, but when he did speak, he had something insightful to say," he said.

Besides his brother Ronald and his wife, Marie, Rep. Donatucci is survived by a son, Thomas; a daughter, Dierdre; his mother, Yolanda; another brother, Thomas, and sisters Rita Donatucci and Maria Marciano. Thomas Donatucci runs the family's successful kitchen business.

Rep. Donatucci's desk, in the last row on the state House floor, was draped in black Tuesday.

House officials said a special election would be called to fill the seat, likely at the same time as next spring's primary.

Funeral arrangements were incomplete.

[PocketProtector]

These whackos are as dedicated at removing our rights as we are of preserving them. Any victory is only a battle won, but the war is NEVER over with the Statists.

[tes151]

[QUOTE=WhiteFeather;1407867]Very strange indeed that such a low bill number unless it was held for something else, then look at the high printer.

There is ZERO chance this going anywhere when the session is over on Nov 30, 2010, must be for PR purposes






So we have a open seat next session till a special election is held.

Well had a "F" grade from FOAC for a long hard core anti gunner voting career to take away our rights.

So its kind of funny how the dead can file and push a bill from the grave.

Maybe finally we now can dump the state liquor stores and save the taxpayer some money with less state government pay roll.

Pulling the plug on and deleting the illegal firearm sales database should be the first thing Corbett does after he is sworn in. Getting rid of PICS should happen 10 minutes after that.

[anonymouse]

(15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully
14 issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been
15 issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether
16 a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and
17 the state under section 6109(k), provided:
1 (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for
2 individuals licensed to carry firearms under section
3 6109.
4 (ii) The person has applied to and not been denied a
5 license by a sheriff or the chief of police of a city of
6 the first class.
7 [(ii)] (iii) The Attorney General has determined
8 that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the
9 firearm laws of this Commonwealth.

So non residents would have to apply and be granted a PA LTCF (if it's not denied, then it's granted, right?) in order for their reciprocal license to be recognized?

What's the point of reciprocity then?

[IronSight]

Given the language of the proposed bill, it could be argued that if you were denied under the character clause you had to abide by it, but it wouldn't affect you if your license was approved and later revoked.

Now that would be a "loophole".