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    Default "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    The Marine that was discharged for dissing the Imposter in Chief in the White House received an "Other than honorable" discharge.

    Will that prevent him from passing the Federal or State firearms check to purchase a handgun or rifle?

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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    Quote Originally Posted by puccini View Post
    The Marine that was discharged for dissing the Imposter in Chief in the White House received an "Other than honorable" discharge.

    Will that prevent him from passing the Federal or State firearms check to purchase a handgun or rifle?
    It shouldn't, the statute says "dishonorable", and the UCMJ is pretty specific about the labels.
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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    REMOVED - already answered.
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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    No it will not . I know people with "general" conditions and it didn't make much
    difference.

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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    FYI

    There are five types of military discharge, and every single military member experiences one of them. The quality of one’s active duty service determines the type of discharge he or she receives. The five military discharges are general, honorable, other than honorable, bad conduct and dishonorable.

    General Discharge

    General denotes that a service member completed his or her service with less than honorable circumstances during duty or upon discharge. Conditions such as illness, injury or other determinants lead to a general discharge. An unacceptable behavior such as drug abuse initiates a general discharge as well.

    A commander makes known the reason for a general discharge in writing. People tend to equate a general discharge with an honorable one. However, general discharges actually deem many veterans ineligible for certain benefits such as the GI Bill.

    Honorable Discharge

    Honorable is a like a grade of A plus. The service member completed his or her duty with admirable personal and professional conduct. Ones with an honorable discharge receive full benefits. They also have an easier time finding employment since an honorable discharge reflects well on a resume.

    Bad Conduct

    Bad Conduct discharge is a punishment for a military crime. It results in confinement to a military prison for a short period of time. No benefits are available to veterans with a bad conduct discharge.

    Dishonorable Discharge

    A dishonorable discharge is also a punitive action against a military member. Serious offenses such as murder or desertion of one’s duty will cause a court martial to order a dishonorable discharge.

    Like a convicted felon, veterans with a dishonorable discharge do not receive many privileges to benefits, possession of firearms and so on. They are ostracized from the military community and will have a hard time finding employment.

    Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge

    A judgment of OTH discharge occurs when a military member is in trouble with the civilian court system, for reasons like a felony conviction leading to imprisonment. OTH is the most severe of the administrative discharges because people with OTH are banned from ever reenlisting into the army or any other part of the Armed Forces. OTH recipients do not receive VA healthcare or most benefits provided through the VA.

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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisH82 View Post
    FYI
    Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge

    A judgment of OTH discharge occurs when a military member is in trouble with the civilian court system, for reasons like a felony conviction leading to imprisonment. OTH is the most severe of the administrative discharges because people with OTH are banned from ever reenlisting into the army or any other part of the Armed Forces. OTH recipients do not receive VA healthcare or most benefits provided through the VA.
    I would think this is the worst aspect of his discharge. After being ousted for his behavior, he probably has no interest in re-enlisting but taking away the benefits is a kick to the nuts.
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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisH82 View Post
    FYI

    There are five types of military discharge, and every single military member experiences one of them. The quality of one’s active duty service determines the type of discharge he or she receives. The five military discharges are general, honorable, other than honorable, bad conduct and dishonorable.

    General Discharge

    General denotes that a service member completed his or her service with less than honorable circumstances during duty or upon discharge. Conditions such as illness, injury or other determinants lead to a general discharge. An unacceptable behavior such as drug abuse initiates a general discharge as well.

    A commander makes known the reason for a general discharge in writing. People tend to equate a general discharge with an honorable one. However, general discharges actually deem many veterans ineligible for certain benefits such as the GI Bill.

    Honorable Discharge

    Honorable is a like a grade of A plus. The service member completed his or her duty with admirable personal and professional conduct. Ones with an honorable discharge receive full benefits. They also have an easier time finding employment since an honorable discharge reflects well on a resume.

    Bad Conduct

    Bad Conduct discharge is a punishment for a military crime. It results in confinement to a military prison for a short period of time. No benefits are available to veterans with a bad conduct discharge.

    Dishonorable Discharge

    A dishonorable discharge is also a punitive action against a military member. Serious offenses such as murder or desertion of one’s duty will cause a court martial to order a dishonorable discharge.

    Like a convicted felon, veterans with a dishonorable discharge do not receive many privileges to benefits, possession of firearms and so on. They are ostracized from the military community and will have a hard time finding employment.

    Other Than Honorable (OTH) Discharge

    A judgment of OTH discharge occurs when a military member is in trouble with the civilian court system, for reasons like a felony conviction leading to imprisonment. OTH is the most severe of the administrative discharges because people with OTH are banned from ever reenlisting into the army or any other part of the Armed Forces. OTH recipients do not receive VA healthcare or most benefits provided through the VA.
    I know a few friends with undesirable discharges from the nam era that have no problem other than the loss of bennies .
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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    Quote Originally Posted by DennisH82 View Post
    FYI


    General denotes that a service member completed his or her service with less than honorable circumstances during duty or upon discharge. Conditions such as illness, injury or other determinants lead to a general discharge.
    So a serviceman that is discharged due to serious wounds sustained in combat would receive a general discharge and get less benefits than a guy that does a perfect job for 4 years as company clerk at a supply depot in Kansas? That doesn't seem right.

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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    Quote Originally Posted by Remington788 View Post
    So a serviceman that is discharged due to serious wounds sustained in combat would receive a general discharge and get less benefits than a guy that does a perfect job for 4 years as company clerk at a supply depot in Kansas? That doesn't seem right.
    I'm pretty sure injuries sustained in the line of duty would not cause a general discharge. There is an actual award for wounds sustained in combat. It'd be kinda hard on Tuesday to give a guy a Purple Heart, then kick him out with a general discharge on Thursday.
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    Default Re: "other than honorable" discharge from USMC

    OTH can be a few things, it's the dischage/reenlistment code that tells part the tale. Here are the nav's.

    RE-1- Eligible for reenlistment.

    RE-1A- Eligible for reenlistment

    RE-2- Ineligible for reenlistment. Recommended for renlistment but ineligible because of status: Fleet Reservist Retired (except for transfer to TDRL), Commissioned Officer. Warrant 0fficer, Midshipman, Cadet.

    RE-3A- Failure to meet area aptitude prerequisites. Fully qunlified for enlistment, provided mental criteria of table 2-1 are met. Alien.

    RE-3B- Restricted assignment. Parenthood. Pregnancy.

    RE-3C- Reenlistment authorized by CMC only. Ineligible for enlistment, unless waiver is granted. Conscientious Objector.

    RE-3D- Failure to meet disciplinary standards. Ineligible for enlistment, unless waiver is granted. Demonstrated dependency or hardship not meetinq criteria specified in Bupersman article C-10308.

    RE-3E- Failure to meet education prerequisites. Fully qualified for enlistment provided education criteria is met. Erroneous induction.

    RE-3F- Erroneous enlistment.

    RE-3G- Condition (not physical disability) interfering with performance of duty.

    RE-3H- Hardship

    RE-3K- Disenrolled from Naval Academy, not considered qualified for enlisted status.

    RE-3M- Marriage.

    RE-3N- Importance to national health, safety or interest.

    RE-3P- Physical disability (includes discharge and transfer to TDRL). Obesity. Motion sickness. Disqualified for officer candidate training.

    RE-3R- Rank reappointment restriction. Ineligible for reenlist unless waivered

    RE-3R- Professional growth criteria. Ineligible for reenlist unless waivered

    RE-3S- Sole surviving son.

    RE-3T- Overweight

    RE-3U- Minority

    *RE-4- Not recommended for reenlistment
    * this is the bad juju, most likely due to going to Mast (ART15) for something UCMJ related.

    Here's a good write up on HD,AS, OTH, BCD,DD

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_discharge
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