Why ??????

[larrymeyer]

Why is it that if you cross the North Korean border illegally you get thrown
into prison and get 12 years of hard labor... if you cross the Iranian
border while out supposedly leisurely hiking in the hills you get arrested
and imprisoned... but if you cross the U.S. border illegally you get a
drivers license, a Social Security card and free health care. Who's bright
idea was this?

[Karl/PA]

He just died.

[fingers80002]

I think he died today, but his spawn are still alive.........

[Eugene V. Debs]

First of all Larry, I'm not aware that illegal immigrants get SS cards legally, and since ID laws have tightened up, it's a lot harder for them to get driver's licenses in many states without resorting to ID theft or false documents.

Second, I don't get your point why you are comparing two of the most authoritarian states' immigration policy to the US's. I'm gonna assume you don't want us to emulate DPRK or Iran. I certainly don't. The reason Iran and North Korea are more authoritarian and have harsher penalties regarding illegal border crossings, is because they are more authoritarian and have more draconian punishments generally speaking. In fact, I think it's safe to say that foreigners who break the laws of those countries are treated much better than citizens who do the same, because the former is an "international incident" whereas the latter, in the vast majority of cases, is not.

[RaisedByWolves]

WoW!


Whos salty?

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[larrymeyer]

First of all Larry, I'm not aware that illegal immigrants get SS cards legally, and since ID laws have tightened up, it's a lot harder for them to get driver's licenses in many states without resorting to ID theft or false documents.

Second, I don't get your point why you are comparing two of the most authoritarian states' immigration policy to the US's. I'm gonna assume you don't want us to emulate DPRK or Iran. I certainly don't. The reason Iran and North Korea are more authoritarian and have harsher penalties regarding illegal border crossings, is because they are more authoritarian and have more draconian punishments generally speaking. In fact, I think it's safe to say that foreigners who break the laws of those countries are treated much better than citizens who do the same, because the former is an "international incident" whereas the latter, in the vast majority of cases, is not.

Don't take things so seriously Gene

[ham385]

First of all Larry, I'm not aware that illegal immigrants get SS cards legally, and since ID laws have tightened up, it's a lot harder for them to get driver's licenses in many states without resorting to ID theft or false documents.

Second, I don't get your point why you are comparing two of the most authoritarian states' immigration policy to the US's. I'm gonna assume you don't want us to emulate DPRK or Iran. I certainly don't. The reason Iran and North Korea are more authoritarian and have harsher penalties regarding illegal border crossings, is because they are more authoritarian and have more draconian punishments generally speaking. In fact, I think it's safe to say that foreigners who break the laws of those countries are treated much better than citizens who do the same, because the former is an "international incident" whereas the latter, in the vast majority of cases, is not.

I think his point is that the punishment seems to be inversely proportional to the presumed attractiveness of immigration into said State. i.e. x=1/y where x is punishment and y is desirability. If a graph were plotted across the range, punishment would rapidly approach 0 as a country became more attractive.

sorry, it's been a long day