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May 5th, 2009, 02:06 PM #1Grand Member
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NRA Question....
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I see that the NRA is now giving away "Free" Memberships as a means of increasing membership [to have more political clout] and having a larger base of members to badger for donations.
I received a phone call about a month ago to rejoin the NRA and told the person trying to recruit me that if he would send me official correspondence showing the salaries of CEO Wayne LaPierre and members of the Board of Directors I would become a endowment member. I was told the information would be mailed out to me [still waiting] but received mailings requesting cash for the cause.
If any members know how to google up that information please provide a link as I would be interested in knowing if they have taken a pay cut like just about everyone else in todays economy.
The last salary I seen for Mr LaPierre was in 2004 and it was stated as $895,897 or some such number just wee bit under $900,000 so I would guess at the present time he is earning over a million annually. Not bad bucks for working for a non-profit organization
Thanks in advance
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May 5th, 2009, 02:13 PM #2
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Regardless of what Wayne gets paid, they are the strongest group looking out for our best interests. Executives (in all fields) get paid a lot of money to do what they do. If they only paid their VP $75k, they would have a $75k VP. Someone with the credentials would certainly go elsewhere if they could get paid more. For a million dollars a year, hopefully the NRA has a million dollar a year VP. I don't know Wayne's credentials but hopefully he is on par with his salary.
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May 5th, 2009, 02:45 PM #3Banned
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i am still waiting for my free membership its been 3 weeks now.......
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May 5th, 2009, 05:59 PM #4Member
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I would imagine it will take some time as they are probably getting thousands of people signing up. Also, with anything like that I find they say it can take from 6 to 10 weeks to start before you start receiving anything. I know with some subscriptions, paid ones, I have waited as long as 8+ weeks for them to start.
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May 5th, 2009, 06:13 PM #5
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I think he is paid what he deserves!! He gets about .01% of the revenue. Look at the CEO of the Red Cross, look at the top 10 charity orgs.
Charity Name CEO Salary Compensation from Affiliates
Safe Kids Worldwide - $1,987,857
MusiCares - $1,242,628
Children's Hospital and Health System Foundation of Wisconsin - $1,020,852
Drexel University College of Medicine - $910,964
Arby's Foundation - $724,038
National Academy of Engineering Fund - $552,640
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May 5th, 2009, 06:40 PM #6Super Member
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Some years back, I felt disillusioned with the NRA, and considered canceling my membership. After much thought, I renewed it. The NRA may not be perfect. But it’s the only major National organization. That has stood up for the 2nd Amendment many times over.. Without the NRA I believe the gun world would be a very different place.
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May 5th, 2009, 07:01 PM #7
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The NRA is very necesary, IMHO. They have instant name recognition, you mention NRA and people know who you're talking about and what they stand for.
They're not perfect--no organization is--but I would rather see them begging for money and paying a high salary to the pres then them :not existing at all.
Question: Did the people of England or Australia have something like the NRA before their govenrments slapped the pee-pee of the citizens and took their mean, dangerous guns?
camperIt's the 2nd Amendment that protects all others
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May 5th, 2009, 09:56 PM #8
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I've said this far more eloquently in the past so I'll ty to be blunt here.
No tool is perfect nor will any ever be. Right now the NRA is the largest, most well known, most recognized, and most politically feared gun rights organization in the country. When they speak, politicians listen because they know what kind of resources the NRA has starting with its members votes on election day. No its not perfect, but right now its the best tool we have. If those who use firearms for purposes other than hunting and sport shooting want the NRA to focus on gun rights issues not related to hunting and sport shooting they need to join and speak up because right now the NRAs membership is primarily hunters and sport shooters so that's who they focus on.
That's reality folks, every organization, no matter what it fights for, will focus primarily on the specific issues pertinent to its members. If the majority of its members owned guns for personal defense the NRA would focus on personal defense and hunters would be the ones saying "Why should I join, they don't care about hunters." If the majority of the NRA's members owned guns because they were collectors thats what the NRA would focus on and sport shooters would be saying "Why should I join, they don't care about shooting sports." The majority of ts members speak, it listens. If you want it to listen to a different majority then you have the join so the majority changes.
If zombies rose today and the only gun you had on hand was a .22 target pistol would you refuse to use it because its not the perfect tool for the job? Or would you load it up, head out, pick your battles and take careful aim?
The NRA is on the battle field, their guns are loaded, they're picking their battles and taking careful aim. At 4 million members out of 80 million gun owners (of the 300 million national population) thats what they have to do. With only 5% of the nations gun owners as members (1.3% of the population) they can't fight every battle, they can't fight most of the battles, they cant even fight half of the battles.
Every national gun rights organization should have a membership of at least 80 million, yet the largest one only has 5% of gun owners as members. One box of WWB will buy a one year membership in most of the national orgs, the change left from any of those put with the price of another box will cover the cost of the rest. One box of WWB = one membership. Unless you honestly can't afford to go to the range there's no legitimate excuse for not being a member in all the national orgs. If the NRA, GOA, JPFO, SAF, etc all had 80 million members do you think that any gun control legislation would ever get passed? Do you think there'd be much of a fight to get the current laws repealed? If all the national 2A rights organizations had 26.67% of the nations population as members do you think any politician would even dare to try to infringe on our rights?
So now its up to you, use the best tool you have at your disposal while developing other tools, or sit on the sidelines crying because you're not in the game.Please help my Baby Kitties and I avoid being homeless.
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May 5th, 2009, 10:15 PM #9
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May 5th, 2009, 10:21 PM #10Grand Member
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Re: NRA Question....
The last info I've seen is for 2007, which puts executive salaries at 1.3% of NRA spending.
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009...-another-myth/
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