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    Default Obama and his plan for gun control

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    JULY 13, 2011
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    Obama Executive Order Cannot Legally Enact Rifle-Reporting Law
    Obama Executive Order Cannot Legally Enact Rifle-Reporting Law
    Obama Executive Order Cannot Legally Enact Rifle-Reporting Law


    Effort to Bypass Congress Is Illegitimate, Experts Say

    Similar Laws Have Required Bills, Open Debate, Recorded Votes

    News Media Asleep at the Wheel, Reporting Without Questioning

    Firearm Owners Protection Act Bans Such Proposals Altogether

    Congress Already Rejected Reporting for Long Guns


    If this stands up, limits on power fall apart --
    Is that the true goal of Project Gunrunner?




    The effort by the Obama administration to establish new gun law by
    executive order is not a legal method for enacting law in the United
    States, according to Alan Korwin, a national expert on gun law and author
    of nine books on the subject. Other experts agree that such a measure
    requires an act of Congress, and cannot legitimately be implemented by
    executive order, as Mr. Obama is attempting to do.

    "We already have rapid-reporting requirements for multiple firearm sales,
    for handguns," Mr. Korwin notes, "and this required Congress to draft and
    enact a statute, which became federal law 18 U.S.C. §923(g). It's not legal
    to create another similar law for long guns without Congress," Korwin says.

    When that law was changed to allow reporting of multiple handgun sales to
    local authorities, in addition to federal officials, that also required
    federal law, which was passed as part of the Brady bill. Congress had an
    opportunity to include long guns in those reporting requirements, and
    rejected it. Congress is the only entity with legitimate power to change
    that, Korwin and other experts say.

    According to knowledgeable observers, a firearms bill like this would not
    make it through Congress, since the House is firmly in pro-gun-rights
    Republican hands. This may explain Obama's effort to sidestep Congress and
    attempt to enact a gun law by decree instead of due process and open
    transparent deliberation. "Mr. Obama knows such a bill would have no chance
    of passage in the current Congress. His attempt to avoid Congress is an
    affront to all Americans, regardless of where they stand on the gun-rights
    issue," said Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America.
    "Apparently the president is a fan of former Clinton advisor Paul Begala's
    approach to government: "Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Kinda cool!"

    A president who attempts to pass laws on his own is dangerous to the
    nation.

    "If the administration can get away with this and enact new law without
    Congress, there is no practical limit on presidential exercise of power, a
    truly frightening development," says Philip Van Cleave, a civil-rights
    activist and president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. "Even
    attempting to grab such power is a tyrannical act," Van Cleave says.

    No justification or rational is known that would allow such action
    regarding rifle sales, when the essentially same law for handguns required
    a bill and proper passage. This goes even one step further than Obama's
    federal health care law, which then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said
    we would have to pass to learn what's in it. That at least used Congress
    for an appearance of legitimacy, this bypasses Congress completely.

    Equal treatment under the law would also be defeated by the move, since
    the attempt singles out dealers in only four states -- California, Arizona,
    New Mexico and Texas. One gun dealer, who refused to be identified, pointed
    out that this will force Mexico's deadly vicious drug cartels to make their
    illegal straw purchases in the other 46 states.

    Nevada, Utah, Colorado and Oklahoma are the next closest states to the
    Mexican border, and could conceivably see an uptick in the sales Obama
    claims he is trying to thwart. Those states would be under no obligation to
    report multiple sales, though licensed dealers are typically vigilant and
    report sales that seem suspicious, if for no other reason than to protect
    their licenses to operate.

    "The whole scheme is preposterous," says Kim Grady, a board member and
    national coordinator for Second Amendment Sisters. "Federal agents were the
    ones smuggling guns into Mexico in the first place, to bolster the numbers
    Mr. Obama, Hillary Clinton and Eric Holder were loudly promoting to build
    support for more gun control -- even after their numbers were exposed as
    false," Ms. Grady notes. "The ATF-managed straw sales sales were repeatedly
    reported to ATF officials, who ignored the information. Now dealers will be
    required to do what they were already doing, to the rogue agency that
    ignored them? This has nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do
    with control." If a new law is needed, Grady said, it's one to imprison
    federal agents who cooperate in gun smuggling, not more paperwork for
    honest and conscientious licensed business people.

    According to ATF, the new edict will generate 18,000 reports in a year. It
    is unknown where the staff and money to handle such a load will come from,
    or how the information will be used. FOPA specifically bans collecting this
    information in any sort of federal facility.

    According to Charles Heller, the newly appointed executive director of
    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, "The ultimate aim of all
    regulations like the one in this executive order, is to make it so
    difficult for private citizens to own and shoot a gun, that they no longer
    bother to do so. This is EXACTLY what the Declaration of Independence,
    whose anniversary we just celebrated, refers to as 'sending forth agents to
    eat out our substance.'"

    Heller notes that, "In the recent Gunrunner debacle, the Obama
    administration attempted to pad the statistics of 'crime guns' going to
    Mexico from the U.S. This is a violation of several U.S. laws, committed by
    law enforcement agents who failed to refuse illegal orders. The solution is
    simple and straightforward -- disarm the agents and decertify the agency as
    a law enforcement organization. Remove their badges, and give them business
    cards like any other bureaucrats. Turn them from jack-boots into gumshoes."

    According to published reports, Obama promised action on gun restrictions
    to long-time anti-rights activist Sarah Brady, saying they would come
    "under the radar," after he got things properly positioned. It defies
    imagination to suggest that Project Gunrunner, and the Fast and Furious
    smuggling crimes were just fronts that had nothing to do with padding the
    numbers, gun smuggling, or even building political support for gun control.
    "If that was just a smokescreen, all arranged so Mr. Obama could begin
    enacting gun law by decree instead of through Congress, now that would be
    one slick pre-planned political stratagem," said author Korwin, adding, "I
    can't believe he's that clever, but it sure looks like he's getting that
    result."

    The NRA has promised a lawsuit to fight the administration's decree, about
    the only action short of impeachment that can be taken if a president acts
    outside the law. That case would be heard in federal courts, which operate
    under Obama's Justice Dept. and AG Eric Holder, which have in the past
    mysteriously dismissed cases they did not like. Voter intimidation by a
    black panther in Philadelphia, for example, disappeared, even though the
    club-wielding perp was caught on videotape.



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    BACKGROUNDER

    As early as Dec. 17, 2010, the National Shooting Sports Foundation
    reported that an effort was underway to create rifle-reporting
    requirements:

    "An editorial in today's Washington Post discussed the recent decision by
    ATF to require federally licensed firearms retailers along the Southwest
    border to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of most
    semi-automatic rifles. Specifically this would impact semi-automatic rifles
    that are larger than .22 caliber, capable of accepting a detachable
    magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive
    business days.

    "Though the Post supports this ill-advised proposal, it did acknowledge
    the legitimacy surrounding one of industry's objections:

    "When reports of its plan surfaced, the administration came under
    immediate attack from the gun rights lobby. The National Shooting Sports
    Foundation, the firearms industry trade association, argued that the
    administration lacked the legal authority to demand data on rifles and
    shotguns. It has a point: While Congress authorized the ATF to collect
    information on handgun sales, it declined to extend the requirement to long
    guns. A court is likely to be asked to decide whether demand letters may be
    used to shake loose this information …"
    http://www.nssfblog.com/atf-to-requi...for-long-guns/

    NSSF continues to oppose multiple sales reporting of semi-automatic
    rifles. Such reporting requirements will actually make it more difficult
    for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their
    illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will
    go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will
    make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious
    behavior to law enforcement.
    http://www.nssfblog.com/more-on-atf-...les-reporting/

    NSSF would also like to remind all members of industry, sportsmen and gun
    owners to voice their concerns by doing the following:

    1. -- Call the Office of Management and Budget, Office of Information and
    Regulation Affairs, Department of Justice, Desk Officer at (202) 395-6466.

    2. -- E-mail Barbara A. Terrell, ATF, Firearms Industry Programs Branch at
    Barbara.Terrell@atf.gov

    3. -- Call your Senators and Representative: United States Capitol
    Switchboard: 202-224-3121



    The NSSF reports that, "According to ATF, the average age of a firearm
    recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it's more than 14
    years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought
    from retailers in the states."

    Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could
    have required multiple sales of long guns -- it specifically chose not to.



    The Washington Post reported on Dec. 17 of last year that, "The plan (to
    register rifles) by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
    revives a proposal that has languished at the Justice Department and in the
    Obama administration for several months, according to people with knowledge
    of the proposal... The idea of such a requirement is so controversial to
    many gun owners that administration officials proceeded cautiously for fear
    of provoking the National Rifle Association, sources said."

    The paper quoted Ted Novin, a spokesman for the National Shooting Sports
    Foundation, who noted the timing after the election and said, "This is an
    ill-considered proposal and one that ATF does not have the legal authority
    to unilaterally impose."

    The Post also quoted NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox, "This administration
    does not have the guts to build a wall (on the border), but they do have
    the audacity to blame and register gun owners for Mexico's problems," Cox
    said. "NRA supports legitimate efforts to stop criminal activity, but we
    will not stand idle while our Second Amendment is sacrificed for politics."

    The original idea, says the Post, was to label the operation as an
    emergency, and have ATF issue a "demand letter" to 8,500 dealers in the
    four border states requiring the new reports to a centralized federal
    facility.

    When the NRA got wind of the idea back then, it warned its four million
    members in a "grassroots alert" that the administration might try to go
    around Congress to get such a plan enacted as an executive order or rule.

    "Emergency approval would last six months, after which the requirement
    would end unless other action were taken, the draft states," according to
    the Post. That time is now up and Obama has seen fit to attempt to continue
    the operation, in defiance of law and with disregard for Congress.
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    From the Firearm Owners Protection Act
    18 USC §926 Rules and regulations

    "The Attorney General may prescribe only such rules and regulations as are
    necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter...

    (3)... No such rule or regulation prescribed after the date of the
    enactment of the Firearms Owners' Protection Act (1986) may require that
    records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the
    contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility
    owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any
    political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of
    firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or dispositions be
    established."




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    Tell me what you think of the above post.
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    Just the fact that this scheming OMaoistration is even considering this should raise the hackles of even his most ardent regimists.
    How can anyone defend anything these Commies have done or plan to do?
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    Why doesn't he just wear his crown in public and get it over with already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by das View Post
    Tell me what you think of the above post.
    Someone who is not me thinks the agency's that should not have power should not have power and the Constitution should toss their asses out.

    Because If I had this thought, I could get into trouble .
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    As soon as the new rules are issued, the NRA says it will file suit. Bravo NRA. Another positive use of my thirty-five bucks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender View Post
    As soon as the new rules are issued, the NRA says it will file suit. Bravo NRA. Another positive use of my thirty-five bucks!
    That is good to hear!

    I also signed up for a membership with the NRA this past May.
    I do have some issues with the NRA, but now is the time to support as many pro gun organizations as possible.
    "One must be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves” ~ Machiavelli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    That is good to hear!

    I also signed up for a membership with the NRA this past May.
    I do have some issues with the NRA, but now is the time to support as many pro gun organizations as possible.
    Good for you! They do their share of the heavy lifting, contrary to the NRA naysayers here on this site. Do you have Sirius or XM radio? Every night at
    8 pm, there is a show called Cam and Company which is the NRA news. It's also streamed on the net. Good show. They talk about all this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender View Post
    Good for you! They do their share of the heavy lifting, contrary to the NRA naysayers here on this site. Do you have Sirius or XM radio? Every night at
    8 pm, there is a show called Cam and Company which is the NRA news. It's also streamed on the net. Good show. They talk about all this stuff.
    No, I dont have satellite radio, but thanks for the heads up.
    What are some of the other proactive gun organization you would recommend getting involved with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricochet View Post
    No, I dont have satellite radio, but thanks for the heads up.
    What are some of the other proactive gun organization you would recommend getting involved with?
    Besides the NRA, I contribute here. I am also a memberof the Pa Rifle and Pistol Assn, Pa FOAC (Firearms Owners Against Crime), and though I am not a member, the JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership). Good clubs and minimal fees to join. I really should join that one, maybe when I get home this time. You really need to check out that Cam and Company on the net, I think you would like it.
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