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March 15th, 2007, 08:25 PM #1
CQB question
Barring the pistol from this discussion, what do you prefer for CQB a shotgun or pistol caliber carbine? The reason I'm asking is I'm thinking about selling my Shottie for a carbine type rifle like a 9mm AR or Beretta CX4.
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March 15th, 2007, 08:31 PM #2
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Re: CQB question
A pistol caliber carbine has limited value. There is a reason so many PD's are transitioning to 5.56 carbines.
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March 15th, 2007, 08:37 PM #3
Re: CQB question
Keep the shotgun and supplement with a carbine, i have one of the old federal arms 45acp AR's and i like it alot its fun to shoot. but is its limited in what it will do for a pistol caliber. i would only use it to fight my way to my 223 AR or my shotgun.
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March 15th, 2007, 08:50 PM #4
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Depends on the type of CQB, indoor I'll take a shotgun with 00 buck any day, outdoor I'll take an AR or AK.
Inside it's very very tight and a shotgun with different loads can offer more flexibility IMHO, and more projectiles is better, less time to aim and I shoot instinticvly better with a shotgun (9 pellets, who can't?)
However it does have a lower capacity and a slower reload time.
Like 1911Shooter said, get both.
The only way I'd consider a pistol caliber carbine is if Glock made one in 10mm.
Out of curiousity, are you talking home defense or professional?
***ALSO IF YOUR SELLING THE BENELLI, I GOT DIBS!***Last edited by jdlv4_0; March 15th, 2007 at 08:54 PM.
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March 15th, 2007, 09:08 PM #5
Re: CQB question
3 words for inside
10" benelli entry gun
for outside, I'll take my m16 anyday...unless they are hiding farther off and need a 308, then its FAL:-)"Oderint Dum Metuant" - BMFH
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March 15th, 2007, 09:11 PM #6
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I have a 6.8 rem upper on my one AR if there that far.
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March 15th, 2007, 09:22 PM #7
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the 6.8 has AK range, since its a close match for AK ballistics.
the whole point of the 6.8 program is to have a US round that closely approximates the AK round in a US platform, 7.62x39 doesn't work well for long in the standard AR platform since the case head is a mite too big for the 223 sized bolt, hogging it out leads to eventual bolt lug breakages.
my m16 will do anything at AK ranges and farther, but if farther than that, I'm switching to 308, but then, thats no longer CQB then is it"Oderint Dum Metuant" - BMFH
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March 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM #8
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[QUOTE=jdlv4_0;37726]Out of curiousity, are you talking home defense or professional?
Home defense only.In their hearts humans plan their course, but the LORD establishes their steps.
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March 15th, 2007, 09:34 PM #9
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March 15th, 2007, 09:53 PM #10
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actually, read a good ballsitics report on 223 penetration vs shotgun or 9mm on home building materials, the 5.56 offers less danger due to its high velocity and light mass, versus slower and heavier shotgun or subgun rounds.
check it out:
http://www.olyarms.com/?rootView=page&page=223articles"Oderint Dum Metuant" - BMFH
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