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    Default New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Regular Session 2015-2016
    House Bill 2378

    Short Title: An Act amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous articles, providing for the offense of carrying firearms while under the influence of alcohol.

    Prime Sponsor: Representative DEAN

    Last Action: Referred to JUDICIARY, Sept. 27, 2016 [House]

    Memo: Prohibiting Individuals with a Concealed Carry Permit to Carry While Under the Influence of Alcohol

    See text at http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/...r=2378&pn=3944

    While this is a practice I do not approve of, I don't believe there has been sufficient instances of occurrence that a law is warranted.


    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities".

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    What's next?

    Make illegal to have a firearm in you house if you have been drinking?
    FUCK BIDEN

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Maybe it's time to start playing their games, and use their tactics against them. Amend constitutional carry to this.
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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Oh god. Another unnecessary law. But it'll probably pass because it's "common sense" blah blah blah. Does it say anything about it prohibiting people from Open Carrying while under the influence of alcohol? Or does it say anything about people who are illegally carrying concealed while under the influence of alcohol? Or is is just targeting those with a LTCF?

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    " under the influence of alcohol " is vague and arbitrary, laws must be definitive.

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Quote Originally Posted by john9001 View Post
    " under the influence of alcohol " is vague and arbitrary, laws must be definitive.
    So "shrooms" are OK? What about high blood pressure? Is there a targeted cholesterol? What about certain pharma prescriptions or just plain old vitamins? This is a slippery slope...
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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Is this something that has already been passed or still needs to be voted on?

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Quote Originally Posted by bamboomaster View Post
    So "shrooms" are OK? What about high blood pressure? Is there a targeted cholesterol? What about certain pharma prescriptions or just plain old vitamins? This is a slippery slope...
    Don't give them any ideas. Think how many violations they could get just by staking out one of the group shoots. After that amount of bacon intake, nobody would be safe.

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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    So if you're driving drunk, you can't have it in your car either?

    Wait....never mind.
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    Default Re: New Today HB 2378 - Carrying under the influence of alcohol

    Greetings,

    This was also put forth as an amendment (along with over 100 other antis) to HB 2258 (would strengthen State firearms law preemption). IIRC, the BAC limit noted in the amendment was .08%. I don't know where that falls re driving.........

    Regards, Jim

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