Long Rifle in the Car

[studderingdave]

I know that you cannot have a Long Rifle in your car if its loaded, but i just bought a new DB shotgun and i have a shell sleeve on the stock with 5 shells in it, can i have that in the car? or do i have to remove the shells completely and have them away from the shotgun? the shotty is for home defense, but i take it to the range regularly as well for practice (as much as you need with a shotgun)

[rwilson452]

You need to remove the shells completely. Ammo must be stored in a separate compartment. It can be the same bag but then it must be a separate compartment of that bag. Like those AR bags with the outside pockets for mags.

I know that you cannot have a Long Rifle in your car if its loaded, but i just bought a new DB shotgun and i have a shell sleeve on the stock with 5 shells in it, can i have that in the car? or do i have to remove the shells completely and have them away from the shotgun? the shotty is for home defense, but i take it to the range regularly as well for practice (as much as you need with a shotgun)

[imperialism2024]

Now... what if you detach the ammo-laden stock from the receiver, and store that in a separate container from the receiver? Is it good then?

[rwilson452]

The receiver is the firearm. If the stock is no longer attached, the stock is no longer a firearm. your good.

Now... what if you detach the ammo-laden stock from the receiver, and store that in a separate container from the receiver? Is it good then?

[GunLawyer001]

Shotguns aren't "loaded" if they have shells attached externally in a sleeve or a Sidesaddle, or if shells are in the same container, unless it's a detachable box magazine shotgun and the mag is loaded.

Coincidentally, I just posted this in another thread:

"Loaded." A firearm is loaded if the firing chamber, the nondetachable magazine or in the case of a revolver, any of the chambers of the cylinder contain ammunition capable of being fired. In the case of a firearm which utilizes a detachable magazine, the term shall mean a magazine suitable for use in said firearm which magazine contains such ammunition and has been inserted in the firearm or is in the same container or, where the container has multiple compartments, the same compartment thereof as the firearm.

Shotguns are not usually "firearms" under the default definition, but "loaded" should apply to them.

[Pa. Patriot]

Shotguns are not usually "firearms" under the default definition, but "loaded" should apply to them.

+1.
In case anyone is confused, there are more than one definition of "firearm" in the UFA but there is only one definition of "loaded" in the UFA.

[studderingdave]

thanks for the info, ill just keep the shells in the front seat while i have the shotgun in the trunk when i go the range.